OPINION: Why do people move out of the United States?

·- Lithuanian in the US, still not American

We are planning on leaving soon. My parents, myself and my wife. We feel like this country has mostly run its course and we’ve stayed here long enough to see that things are unfortunately trending in the wrong direction and have been rapidly deteriorating the last 4 years.

A bit of background: I was born in Lithuania in 1991. We migrated to the US (one by one) in 2003, just months before Lithuania was admitted to the EU. This is important, because much of Europe wasn’t yet open to us so moving to the US, Sweden, UK, Canada – it was all the same pre-2004.         

Lithuania was a very difficult place to live in back then. In 2020, the GDP PPP per capita is $38.6 thousand, compared to established EU countries like Spain ($38.14k), Italy ($40.07k) and Finland ($44.33k). In 2003, Lithuania was at GDP PPP per capita $12.06k while Spain was at $25.01k, Italy at $29.16k and Finland at $29.01k. Quite a difference from 2003! We were at least twice as poor as Spain, nearly 3 times poorer than Italy and Finland. We have now surpassed Spain and are on our way to pass Italy shortly.


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  • kamtanblog  On 11/02/2020 at 12:40 am

    Interesting !
    Obviously an economic not political decision. The language preference in story
    is in English which is also interesting.
    Why are Lithuanians not Americans ?
    Can’t “aliens” apply for American citizenships
    after 5 years ?
    Not having all the “facts” other than the
    Economic one would question if it is
    right or wrong decision.
    It may be right decision but wrong timing
    …or visa versa….or both and neither wrong or right decision.
    Reserve my judgement until after results
    of election ! After Brexit many Eastern European’s have left UK ….those who were
    here for 5 years or more can apply for uk
    citizenship….those who wish to remain must
    register and later apply for citizenship.
    Residency first citizenship after 5 years.
    Google citizenship FMI

  • Dennis Albert  On 11/02/2020 at 6:59 am

    America and Canada are collapsing morally, financially and spiritually. The same might go for England, but Europe is a large continent.

    Pastor David Lynn and Dorre Love: You are free to take refuge in our oil-rich nation.

    Christianity is illegal in your country of Canada. How can the LGBT and women rights community damage your property, yet you get charged for crimes?

    America has foresaken God.

    • Kman  On 11/02/2020 at 6:33 pm

      Which rock do you live under bug?

      • Dennis Albert  On 11/02/2020 at 9:34 pm

        America, Canada and England are Sodom:

        My country is blessed with oil. We don’t need dutty sodomites in GT. We already got Sherlina Nageer doing surveys of how preteens have sex.

      • Simon Tremble  On 11/03/2020 at 12:01 pm

        This is going to be my last comment on the matter, but the preacher you are idolizing is a hate monger. His friend Dorre Love had been charged for physical assault of a member of the LGBTQ12S community in Vancouver. Those guys are homophobes and sexist hate preachers.

        I am telling the Canadian High Commissioner to Guyana to encourage her to legislate sanctions and boycotts on the Guyanese government if gay marriage is not decriminalized. Women should also have the right to walk bare-chested in public and in government buildings.
        Thank you!

  • brandli62  On 11/02/2020 at 10:01 am

    The numbers from Lithuania are impressive and a message to all those in the UK who have been demonising the EU! Lithuania will gladly welcome Simas and his family as the country has been faced with a brain drain over the last two decades. There is now also remigration from the UK back to the Baltic states as a consequence of Brexit.

  • Fred Carr  On 11/02/2020 at 10:48 am

    Interesting comments(s) with so many inaccuracies. When Simas leaves the US, he will no doubt take with him all the money he accumulated while living in the in the US. The US was once a “safe harbor” for him and family when “things were brown” in Lithuania: let’s hope for his sake he doesn’t find it necessary to once more leave should Mr. Putin decide to drop the “iron Curtain” again on Lithuania and the surrounding countries.

    In any case, there are about 12 million? illegal residents in the US who would disagree with Simas, and should life be so bad in the US, there would be no need for a wall to keep others out. Does anyone remember or know that during the Spring how many thousands tried to walk from South America into the US and were turned back at the borders?

    Not sure where Mr. Albert heard that Christianity is illegal in Canada and the country is collapsing etc. – you must be smoking weed my friend or someone fed you a lot of nonsense. I can assure you that what you heard about Canada is untrue; freedom of religion exists in Canada unlike many countries elsewhere and I should know as I live in Canada. Most of us living here & the US have studied and work darned hard to acquire what we have, and educated our children to do likewise for themselves and their children. The streets of the Canada and the US are not paved with gold, but by being law abiding, educated, hard working and spending less than one earns, one can accumulate a little gold.

    As for forsaking God in the US, there are so many scamps from all over the world including at various levels living in Guyana and former Guyanese scamps who found safe harbor in the US & elsewhere. Hell, only recently, the police caught the architect of the Rawanda ethnic cleansing in Kenya (I think) after his being on the run for over 20 years. So don’t point fingers at the US and Canada being Godless.

    Mr. Albert, you are so misinformed and impress me(I may be wrong here) as an individual who is probably in his mid 60’s and who may never have left the shores of Guyana. I thank my God that left, went to University here and Scotland, returned but couldn’t handle the politics. I am now over age 80 and suggest sir, you need to do some serious reading on the internet about US, Canada and the world in general so as to become informed. Don’t express views on matters where you may have been indoctrinated by some uniformed pastor without double checking on the truth, as you have come across as a very foolish individual. Have a nice day.

    • Dennis Albert  On 11/02/2020 at 12:43 pm

      In Canada, I’ve heard that it’s legal for a member of the gender rights and LGBT community to walk naked in public and show their genitalia to children, but Pastors are arrested for misdemeanors like breach of the peace or “hate speech” when they hold public speeches.

      In the UK, the Public Order Act is used on Pastors, but not on ISIS-sympathisers preaching terrorist calls in the heart of London.

      • Simon Tremble  On 11/03/2020 at 11:57 am

        We are a progressive country. Women have rights, unlike your homophobic nation of Guyana or Jamaica. Nudity is freedom of speech. Nudity is not sexual.

        Breasts are not sexual. I am writing a letter to the Canadian High Commissioner to Guyana to voice my concerns of anti-gay laws and misogynistic laws in your country. Women should be allowed to wear anything in government buildings.

        Your country needs to learn to respect the rights of women and members of the LGBTQ12S community.

      • Dennis Albert  On 11/05/2020 at 9:56 am


        When the police arrived, rather than dealing with those who were assaulting Pastor Lynn, the police blamed him for creating a disturbance of peace . Even upon his request to deal with those who had assaulted him, the police would not listen to him.

        Pastor Lynn, preaches on a weekly basis all throughout Toronto with amplification and, according to his statements, he has never been in violation of the law by using amplification. In the video that captured the entirety of the event, the officers told him that he needed to preach without amplification. They said this despite him not being in any violation of the law. He then proceeded to preach without amplification, but not long after, the officers decided to arrest him.

  • Dennis Albert  On 11/02/2020 at 12:48 pm

    Is it legal in Canada for the Pastor to hire armed bodyguards?

    Some of those cretins and deviants look like they have nutritional deficiencies in lead and copper. Like Sherlina Nageer scrawny and have the body of a child.

  • Tremble  On 11/03/2020 at 11:53 am

    The homophobic, sexist and hateful preacher should return to Jamaica if he doesn’t like Canada or The USA.

    I guess that there are Guyanese who share Jamaica’s homophobic and anti-gay culture.

    Canada and Guyana are at two very opposite extremes when it comes to quality of life, human rights and opportunities for a better life. If I were coming here from a country like that I would kiss the Canadian ground every morning and be thankful.

    Guyana is a country which criminalizes same-sex marriage, and it’s a poor nation with misguided souls.

    Canada is the best country on the planet and we welcome people here, make it easy for others to come here and share the wealth. Oh, Canada!!

    • brandli62  On 11/03/2020 at 3:44 pm

      I agree with Tremple criticism. Homophobia is rampant in the Caribbean. It’s time that people change their attitudes. The discrimination of gay and lesbian people is not acceptable and only cause pain and suffering to all involved. Do we want to go back to the times where gay men were forced to marry women just to comply with the conventions? What was the result? Women that were betrayed, husbands that had to hide their true feelings and kids born into possibly dysfunctional families. Is this really what we want as a society? Jesus Christ would have this approved the discrimination of gay and lesbian people, as he did with prostitutes and poor people. They are all children of God.

  • Dennis Albert  On 11/03/2020 at 4:26 pm

    Sheer Aunty Man ramblings on this thread.

    • guyaneseonline  On 11/03/2020 at 6:26 pm

      Please .. Please… Stop this type of comment…. or you will be blocked.
      Everyone is entitled to their opinions…. Be respectful.
      Thank you.

  • Dennis Albert  On 11/04/2020 at 8:17 am

    An American is threatening to sanction my country because of Dutch and British laws that we do not have control over.

    If Canada castigates us for the laws, then how is that not colonialism?

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