RACISM: Africans worldwide must confront blatant public racist comments – By Freddie Kissoon

The African race worldwide has to confront this growing evil 

Freddie Kissoon

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  • Cyril Persaud  On February 3, 2019 at 11:39 am

    Mr. Kissoon Sir, please grow a set thank you

  • rick dalgetty  On February 3, 2019 at 12:18 pm

    Not sure what Persaud’s comment means; however, I recall former president Burnham’s approach to racism/apartheid in South Africa…that was principle. We need more such.

  • Emanuel  On February 3, 2019 at 1:54 pm

    Fully agreed, Mr Kissoon. Watson, Gupta and that Pakistani captain should be removed from the intentional square and placed in a cave. They are uneducated bigots and blatantly poisonous animals.

  • Trevor  On February 3, 2019 at 2:13 pm

    My brethren in the USA get police called on them because some bigoted white woman is scared of his presence. Trump brought back Jim Crow laws into the USA.

  • carament  On February 3, 2019 at 3:55 pm

    Be aware also that some of our folks seek to exclusively have relationships with white folk…particularly intimate relationships: They get a feeling of having arrived or achieved. Of course that does not cancel the demonstrated bigotry of some whites but it does demonstrate some fluidity with regard to social relationshps and interactions in a very general, inter and intra-communal way. However, the gist of the article was about overtly, expressed and pointedly directed racism toward black folk by ostensibly non-white folk: That’s a tragedy. Think about it. Best regards. The Slick1.

  • Walter Petrie  On February 3, 2019 at 7:39 pm

    I’d like Cyril Persaud to explain himself, his comment. Freddie Kissoon’s paper is quite telling but nothing which is not generally known.

    Thank you, Freddie, for telling it like it is.

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On February 4, 2019 at 1:05 pm

    What is new? Kissoon’s anti-Indian agenda is once again on display. Aside from Watson, he can find only an Indian and a Pakistani (both supposedly of Indian ethnicity) to illustrate racism against Blacks.

    He writes: “Life is never guaranteed in a hell hole and a shit-hole place like Pakistan”
    While I agree with the first part of the assertion, calling Pakistan an ‘S-H place’ clearly shows Kissoon’s own racism despicable mindset about Indian people.

    His racism and ignorance is also on display when he writes: “They couldn’t be bothered since anti-black racism is common in that industry (Bollywood). This is where the western culture will always lead the world.”
    For Kissoon “western culture” epitomizes God-given purity, fairness and is the world’s ideal civilization and culture.

    Every day, one can see racism against non-whites around the world. Europe and American’s ascendancy is based on racism. Colonialism was racist. The Americas were founded on racism/slavery and decimation of the aboriginal peoples. (Indian indentureship in the Caribbean, South Africa, et al, were also racist – but which will be dismissed by the Kissoon’s groupies here and in the halls of Caribbean houses of learning who follow Clem Seecharan, a Kissoon twin – they just gave him an honorary PhD). In Canada, Christian (leaders of Western culture) denied native peoples of their indigenous culture. Similarly, this civilizing-Christian mentality spawned the utterly false Aryan Invasion Theory of India (taking colour racism – which Kissoon complains about – to India) and took the Inquisition to Goa-India for 250 years.

    Just this week in the US there was an attack on Jussie Smollett for being Black as well as Gay. Then there is Virginia governor, Northam, being cited for black racism. Even European soccer is often in the news about racism against Blacks.
    In Saudi Arabia Indians and Phillipinos are treated as slaves. One Saudi employer planted over twenty carpentry nails in a Tamil housekeeper, over time, as punishment, etc. etc. But Kissioon has his head planted squarely in his rear-end when these incidents occur; and his groupies don’t mind.

    I note the UG lecturer speaks of : “The African race should confront this morbidity…”. African RACE?

    Finally, I will shock everyone when I show unambiguously (in my much delayed book, hopefully by upcoming May) that Black-Indian racism in Guyana and the Caribbean was started by Blacks. Yes, Blacks ‘threw the first stone’ !
    VNM

  • carament  On February 5, 2019 at 10:02 am

    Veda, your last comment strains credulity and strays far from intelligent posturing: I am trying to hold you to a high standard here as a result of your declared authorship of a book on racism. However, your proffered notion that Black-Indian racism in Guyana and the Caribbean was started by Blacks and that “Blacks threw the first stone”, is both idiosyncratic and a-intellectual in the same fell swoop; and not to mention, prejudiced. Specifically, if you want to talk about the historically bad inter-communal relations between the two major racial groups in Guyana, please be respectful enough to accord each with appropriate ethno-social nomenclature: The “Black-Indian” depiction is most unacceptable; as a writer and thinker you ought to know better; unless this is a purposeful and demonstrated symptom of your Africanist bias. Indians are no more Indian than Africans are African, in the context of diasporic placement.

    Further, while it may seem, prima facie, that racism between Africans and Indians in Guyana is of their own doing, deeper reading and thoughtful analysis might introduce you to the roots of the emerged racism in Guyana. The white, expatriate plantocracy was actually the principal and primary purveyor of racism in Guyana. It was they who created and embedded the socially deviant infrastructure of mistrust between Africans and Indians. I hope your book can expound on this because I really do not have the time to revisit: I did a lot in my student days. Suffice it to say, Africans and Indians suffer from their respective afflictions with prejudice and mistrust towards each other: It can be cured but psuedo-intellectuals and sycophantic politicians stand in the way of healing.

    Freddie, with whom I do not always agree, as it ought to be, has correctly brought this critical issue forward.

    Best regards. The Slick 1

    • Emanuel  On February 7, 2019 at 12:40 am

      Your comment is spot on, carament. The fella is bigly arrogant and has a propensity for beating down everyone else’s points of view. He thinks he is the smartest and coolest cat in the room. Good on you for putting him in his place. Me thinks he has finally met someone smarter than he.

  • walter  On February 5, 2019 at 11:12 am

    And off we go, no suggestions, no answers, just finger pointing, making the situation worse, “I know more than you, I am better educated” We know this won’t end well , BEEN HERE BEFORE!

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On February 5, 2019 at 1:30 pm

    Carament:
    Re. “please be respectful enough to accord each with appropriate ethno-social nomenclature: The “Black-Indian” depiction is most unacceptable; as a writer and thinker you ought to know better; unless this is a purposeful and demonstrated symptom of your Africanist bias. Indians are no more Indian than Africans are African, in the context of diasporic placement.”

    In the ‘diaspora’, the term “Black” is widely used to refer to people of ‘African’ origin. Even Kissoon whom you support has used the terms “Black” and “black” congruent with “African”. He also used “white” and “Indian”; how do you think he should refer to these groups?

    In Canada, often the gov’t CBC refers to both the indigenous peoples of Canada and ethnic ‘Indians’ (of ancestry from India) as Indians. No one fusses.
    Furthermore, some commentators on this site get upset when the terms Indo-Guyanese and Afro-Guyanese are used. I have read and heard people of ethnic African background both in Guyana and in North America who variously get upset when they are referred to as: “black”, Black” (as you do) “negro”, “African” and Afro-Guyanese. Pray, tell: which is the correct one? Note that I accord respect by using the capital “B” in Black.

    Anticipating the latter I wrote in the Foreword to an earlier book “Under Attack! The Caribbean Indian” the terms ‘ “black”, Black”, “negro”, “African” and “Afro-Guyanese” will be used interchangeably’. You are just a late-comer.

    Re. “. The white, expatriate plantocracy was actually the principal and primary purveyor of racism in Guyana. It was they who created and embedded the socially deviant infrastructure of mistrust between Africans and Indians.”

    “Principal” perhaps; “primary” NO!. What I will reveal in the book about ‘African-Indian racism has NOTHING to do with “expatriate plantocracy”. That is why “I will shock everyone”!

    My upcoming book (as I have said on this forum several times before) is not just about racism, but about the (constant Kissoon-like) attacks on Hinduism, India, and Indians as deviantly anti-Muslim and anti-Afro-Guyanese. I will be responding to Clem Seecharan’s thesis which he delivered in Guyana in 2014 as a “distinguished lecture” and reproduced here on this site. He then went on to get an honourary PhD from UWI in late 2017. Some Indians wonder if there is a connection.
    https://guyaneseonline.net/2014/04/11/32007/

    Walter:
    Good point. But wait on my book. Then even you can make a worthy recommendation. (Speaking just about the Indian condition) Until then, unless more respect is given to Indian culture and Hinduism, by non-Indians (who have imbibed the Christian religion and see Hinduism as pagan) engaging especially with Hindus, because Indians and their culture are deemed “alien” – terms used early to describe them – little progress will be made. But there are other major stereotypes which are openly talked about in some non-Indian circles outside India, and is rampant in the Guyana/Caribbean, which will be revealed, officially in the book.

    VNM.

  • walter  On February 5, 2019 at 2:26 pm

    “even you” WOW! ALRIGHTEEE THEN

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On February 5, 2019 at 3:39 pm

    Walter: Rather than me, subjectively, “you” objectively, nwhen I reveal the facts , will be in a position to make a worthy recommendation.
    VNM

  • walter  On February 5, 2019 at 4:43 pm

    Two problems, one minor, necessary to explain, next is, Mr. Wong is now Black, Mr Singh is now Chinese, Mr Robinson is now Indian, you guys better hurry up, losing target audience.

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On February 6, 2019 at 9:56 pm

    You will see here that Carament is living in a bubble; or, just wants to put me down – an indian (in in context of Kissoon’s attack)
    .
    Throughout this article, Kamala Harris is referred to as “black” or African American – which is widespread in the media and how the people refer to themselves. But, as usual, being an Indian, I am easy target for vilification for “Africanist bias” when I use the appellation “Black” to refer to the said people.

    Here are three references in one para she makes of her and sister’s identities:

    “My mother understood very well that she was raising two black daughters,” Harris writes in her recently published autobiography, “The Truths We Hold.” “She knew that her adopted homeland would see Maya and me as black girls, and she was determined to make sure we would grow into confident, proud black women.”

    https://guyaneseonline.net/2019/02/06/i-am-who-i-am-kamala-harris-daughter-of-indian-and-jamaican-immigrants/

    VNM

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On February 16, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    I wrote above “Just this week in the US there was an attack on Jussie Smollett for being Black as well as Gay.”

    Seems this story has lots of legs yet.

    VNM

  • carament  On February 17, 2019 at 6:09 pm

    Veda…I’m not sure why you feel compelled to continue citing examples of folk of African heritage being referred to as black. In the whole, ostensibly now, racist color scheme created to differentiate, compartmentalize and ultimately dominate people. Folks ethnic heritage cannot be dispatched to the simple realm of coloration/pigmentation. In reality, there are no white and black people and I’m sure you understand that: and I’m sure you understand that I’m calling you out on the use of the term “black” for more than one reason…particularly because of you ascribing to your community its true ethnic ascription while referring to mine via seeming, pejorative color-coding. Simply, as the old adage instructs…”good for the goose…good for the gander”.

  • Veda Mohabir  On February 18, 2019 at 9:38 am

    Carament: Tell that to Kamala Hariris, et al. Also, how am I to refer to Smollet. Should I have said Mixed, African, Afro- Americanan? I showed that your hero Freddie Kisson vacillated on the nomenclature.
    When I see a onsensus, I will gladly use that term. Until then, I’ll remain confused. and hesitant whenever I have to refer to your community.

  • Trevor  On February 18, 2019 at 9:31 pm

    There are no white people? The devil has lied to you in thinking that he, or she, doesn’t exist.
    then who are those pale skinned folks who operate multi-national companies who rob third worlders and gun down Palestinians in occupied Middle Eastern territory?

    Their skin is so pale that if they go without sunscreen for 15 minutes in the sun, they turn red.

    These pale folks have referred themselves as Christians and Jews, using Zionist Christianity to uphold an apartheid state called Israel.

    When South Africa was ruled by the pales, one was discriminated based on their skin colour, mainly brown and black.

    Using colour terms negatively to attack race is wrong, but it’s very difficult to use the white man’s “politically correct” terms as it self-censors people.

    *I received a new notebook computer from my aunt in the USA, but this damn thing keeps on correcting my spelling to American English!

  • carament  On February 19, 2019 at 1:25 am

    Trevor…Even before the advent of slavery, the term “black” now used to describe people of African descent, was used to describe many perceivably bad social concepts, behaviours and outcomes; black-listed, black-magic, black-balled, blackmail, to name a few. When europeans went to Africa, they, even without significant exploration, deemed it the dark continent. Naturally then, who they would extract from it would be dark/black people; leading to the term negro and consequently “nigger”, as a european-american southern drawler would be apt to pronounce it. Notably, since Veda continues to cite Americans of African descent who are referred to or referred to themselves as “black, this issue was dragged out in intra-community argumentation some 25 or 30 years ago and the prevailing idea is that the community should be referred to by the term, African-American, giving it parity with other groups who were more socially and civilly addressed by ethnic-American nomenclature; for example, Italian-Americans, German-Americans, Israeli-Americans, Canadian-Americans, Irish-Americans, etc. True, there were arguments forwarded by the more militant, with very good cause, who detested the term American and what it meant for them both historical and present. In fact, on data collecting documents, it is asked to denote your ethnicity by “Black or African American”(one category). Resultantly, I expect that Veda will no longer be pointing out these purely American instances of color identification to me. Look at it this way…Veda knows that if he were to simply call someone black in Guyana, the atmosphere would immediately become hostile and confrontational; even leading to physical violence and at a minimum, a retort of him being a “coolie”: Let’s not play games here. Ironically, as he wants to use America as the backdrop for his use of the term “black” to excuse his use of the term black, herein(the USA), he would fit firmly into the racial color construct of being black; he might even be called “brown” as the system has opted to do of recent; but he wouldn’t like it: He would prefer to be addressed as Indian. Hope you understand the point I’m making. So, I’m not concerned with what or who is perceived as white or black: My eyes tell me there are no people colored black nor any white; but I do understand the simplistic colorization of people and I do understand why the facility of compartmentalization by color suits those who look white. Let’s stop making it easy for them.

    • Trevor  On February 20, 2019 at 10:15 pm

      Racism is only perpetuated by the elite classes of GT which comprise of Europeans, Portuguese, Chinese and East Indians.

      The average Guyanese has now departed from the CIA induced racial tensions of the 50s and 60s. East Indian women are marrying us, and vice versa.
      Amerindians are now being respected as human beings.

      The days of when Bookers and the Jewish elites of Wall Street and London owning Guyana is a long gone memory.

      We know that America and the UK deliberately fanned the flames of racial tensions between us, the ancestors of slavery by Amsterdam, Holland Jews, and indentured East Asians of the British Empire.

      If racial tensions become severe, Exxon will bank large and laugh all the way to the bank while we fight one another.

      GT is facilitating the influx of wealthy foreigners by constructing fancy towers, but the average Guyanese, brown or black, is likely to die at GPHC due to lack of funding for healthcare.

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On February 19, 2019 at 10:27 am

    Here again, two “Guyanese” who identify themselves as “Black” (at least one lives in the US) – and I can cite others – who pillory a young woman, Elizabeth Jaikaran for simply identifying herself as “Indo-Guyanese”… and (with the twist) not ‘Black’.

    The attack then widens to India and all Indians.

    https://guyaneseonline.net/2016/04/15/the-indo-caribbean-experience-now-and-then-by-elizabeth-jaikaran-2/

    VNM.

  • carament  On February 19, 2019 at 11:50 am

    Veda…I’m not sure what you mean by the post above, re two Guyanese….neither do I see the relevance of the attached article. I must say though it was a good read with reasoned perspective and clarity; characteristics I am also expecting in your upcoming book…of which I’m sure you will like to provide me a copy.
    Best regards.

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On February 19, 2019 at 3:10 pm

    See my comment on the Elizabeth Jaikaran page. I put it inadvertently there.
    VNM

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On February 19, 2019 at 9:52 pm

    I am reposting what I wrote with much extra help for you.

    Reread the commentaries. Hint: Hinds and Tata dislike the Indo and Afro prefixes ahead of ‘Guyanese’, which they use as their title. Secondly, they pour vitriol on Ms Jaikaran for avoiding “Black” identity (by not identifying as just “Guyanese”), which they subscribe to (and which you have a huge problem with).

    Did you not see Hinds say these?

    “Stop patronizing my country and my heritage with your hypocrisy. If you are not unequivocally Guyanese,..”

    “A 100% GUYANESE…. unbiased and unapologetic…

    And,

    “I alluded to the fear of being considered black that indulges this stupidity with ”indo guyanese” ”

    Then, Tata wrote this (note that he too emphasizes “Guyanese” with no “Indo” prefix. As well, note the “black” at the end, just as Hinds does above:

    “On the other hand, Guyana is for Guyanese. If you “people” cannot identify with our culture please leave. Remember this, People leave their homeland everyday to seek a better future in other countries and it is never easy but nothing in life is promised to anyone. We all have to work hard and “suck it up.” But, it seems that people of your extraction are forever complaining and it is always against the black people of Guyana.

    I alluded to the ‘Black Panther’ movie (which is double entendre on the word “Black”) . Also, note Ruth Carter referring to herself as a “black woman” at the very end. https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/ruth-carter-black-panther-costume-design-oscars-1.5023435

    Also, the Black Panthers Party’s, ” Seale and Newton formed the Negro History Fact Group, which called on the school to offer classes in black history.”

    Not only is “black history” but “Negro” as in “Negro History Fact Group” were/are common epithets for some in your community.
    https://www.history.com/topics/civil-rights-movement/black-panthers

    QED! This is my last post on this issue.

    VNM

  • Trevor  On February 20, 2019 at 10:19 pm

    Racism is only perpetuated by the elite classes of GT which comprise of Europeans, Portuguese, Chinese and East Indians.

    The average Guyanese has now departed from the CIA induced racial tensions of the 50s and 60s. East Indian women are marrying us, and vice versa.
    Amerindians are now being respected as human beings.

    The days of when Bookers and the J*wish elites of Wall Street and London owning Guyana is a long gone memory.

    We know that America and the UK deliberately fanned the flames of racial tensions between us, the ancestors of slavery by Amsterdam, Holland J*ws, and indentured East Asians of the British Empire.

    If racial tensons become severe, Exxon will bank large and laugh all the way to the bank while we fight one another.

    GT is facilitating the influx of wealthy foreigners by constructing fancy towers, but the average Guyanese, brown or black, is likely to die at GPHC due to lack of funding for healthcare.

    Edit: Seems that the J*w word gets automatically flagged.

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On February 27, 2019 at 2:44 pm

    Here is another use of “Black” for Carament to have corrected to “African”:

    “The history of Black History Month (BHM) is interesting in Canada. Many know the American story, how it began as “Negro History Week” in 1926. In 1976 President Ford made the growing trend of celebrating a “Black History Month” official.”
    https://guyaneseonline.net/2019/02/26/black-history-month-is-a-part-of-the-solution-and-the-problem-nicholas-raymond-rockey-simon/#comment-238438

    Next:
    Surprise! It just struck me that he too used the very word that he berates me for using. This is from his first comment above:
    “However, the gist of the article was about overtly, expressed and pointedly directed racism toward black folk by ostensibly non-white folk:..”

    The ‘tragedy’ is that any non-African/Black person who dares make a comment of the community runs the risk of offending someone, either from the community or their putative police, Freddie Kissoon. Here he is at it again.
    https://guyaneseonline.net/2019/02/24/guyana-my-problem-with-indian-academics-writing-about-african-guyanese-freddie-kissoon/

    VNM

  • Trevor  On March 1, 2019 at 5:09 pm

    What is Freddie Kissoon going to do when Exxon forces him and others off his land?

    How come the Chinese man, the white man, the white woman and the so-called Jewish people aren’t involved in racial tensions in Guyana?

    There are so-called Jews living in Guyana right now. They form the majority of oil investors and they have ties to Israel.

    Exxon and Guyanese elites like the man who owns Ogle Airport (who sued Kaieteur News using false pretenses and to censor); they are part of the problem.

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