Jesus for the non religious – Retired bishop John Spong on religion – video

Jesus for the non religious – Retired bishop John Spong on religion.

SourceCode10 Published on Oct 17, 2012 
Who wrote the bible and was it inspired by God? How many disciples did Jesus have? Did he have woman disciples and was he married?
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  • Clyde Duncan  On September 24, 2018 at 5:47 pm

  • Clyde Duncan  On September 24, 2018 at 6:00 pm

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On September 25, 2018 at 11:49 pm

    The Bible in India: Hindu Origin of Hebrews and Christian Revelations (written in 1868 published in 1876) by Colonial French Jurist in India – Louis Jacolliot ( a mulatto) argues that India was the “fountain-head” of all the ‘religious traditions of both the ancient and modern peoples’ and that “Manu” (from whom we get the word “man”) the Indian law-giver “inspired Egyptian, Hebrew, Greek and Roman legislation, and his spirit still permeates …European laws”. How it happened is that Indian emigrant took their religion and laws to the various countries.

    In fact, as a French jurist, he could see specific French laws – French Civil Code- based on Manu’s Code.

    Example: Title of Chap 1 – “INDIA BY HER LANGUAGE, HER USAGES, HER LAWS, AND HISTORIC TRADITIONS, THE CIVILIZER OF THE WORLD.

    Jesus’ life (as told by his followers) he says mirrors Krishna’s (Avatar of Vishnu) who passed away 3,000 years earlier – the story of virgin birth and the escape (after birth) from a King who had heard that Krishna would be his undoing.

    Also, Tom Harpur, who is mentioned by Spong in one of the videos – was Professor of Greek and New Testament at the University of Toronto and author of several books, incl The Pagan Christ, in 2005, as editor of the Toronto Star’s Religion editor wrote an article pointing out that’ several things that Krishna pronounced on, Jesus said the same things 3,000 years later.

    Jacolliot shows that even the story of Adam & Eve was already in India – Sri Lanka was the ‘Garden of Eden’. In the Indian telling, “Adima” (meaning ‘first’ man in Sanskrit) and “Heva” (meaning ‘to complete’; hence completing the family unit with Adima) were the archetypical Adam & Eve. But significantly, Heva was NOT the sinner as Eve is made out to be in the Abrahamic traditions. Heva is shown trying to restrain her husband, Adima from violating God’s plan (that they remain on the Island where everything is provided for). After God’s reprimand – having them work for their living henceforth – even rewards Heva’s kind (women) by promising her that one of her female progeny would give birth to a Redeemer – Vishnu/Krishna.
    Unfortunately, the misogynistic Abrahamic tradition twisted the story to make women the cause of Eternal Sin (after which all Christians, et al, are born in Sin for which the Christ is supposed to die on the cross to redeem them).

    If getting the book, I suggest this one, edited by Dr. Ravi Prakash Arya, as he took out some translation bugs (originally Indian languages to French) and made some spelling improvements to reflect Indian/Sanskrit words and names.

    https://www.amazon.com/Bible-India-Indian-Christian-Revelations/dp/8187710977

    Here is a modern telling of the Indian Adam & Eve story.
    https://sites.google.com/site/eloisewritings/home/adam-and-eve-in-india-1

    Incidentally there is also Holger Kersten’s “Jesus lived in India” which argues that Jesus lived and learned much of his missionary philosophy in India; and that he DIDN’T die on the cross and was “resurrected” but was “resuscitated” and finally died in Kashmir. The book has picture-plates including the monastery where he visited, and footprints which claimsto show where the nails in his feet were planted
    https://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Lived-India-Before-Crucifixion/dp/0143028294

    VedaMN

  • Clyde Duncan  On September 26, 2018 at 1:08 am

    Eddie in the UK wrote:

    Just another attempt by a religious Jesus fanatic to give intellectual credence to a white oligarch narrative intended to mobilise and control the thinking of those who must be ruled.

    As people awaken to the wiles and deception of the ruling class these religion agents of the political bureaucrats come up with new mind controlling techniques through re-inventing the narrative.

    Remember deceivers do not change their tactics do.

    Have a blessed day.

  • Veda Nath Mohabir  On September 26, 2018 at 9:03 am

    Here is another coincidence? The great Indian epic, Mahabharata, which Sharon Westmaas rewrote over 20 years as ‘Sons of Gods’ has a character named Karna. He was of
    Virgin birth and was placed in a reed basket in the river. Notice the resemblance to Jesus and Moses in just one character, Karna!
    VNM

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