Iran nuclear talks: Rouhani vows to abide by deal + video

Iran nuclear talks: Rouhani vows to abide by deal – BBC News reports

Hassan Rouhani

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani

Iranian President Rouhani: “This is the first step”

Iran’s president has vowed it will abide by the terms of the preliminary nuclear agreement it signed with six world powers, so long as they do too.

“The world must know that we do not intend to cheat,” Hassan Rouhani said in a televised address to the nation.

But Mr Rouhani warned that Iran would have other options if world powers “one day decide to follow a different path”.

The framework deal signed on Thursday April 2, will see Iran curb nuclear activities in return for relief from sanctions.  

Earlier Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned that it posed a grave danger to the region, in particular his own country.

He said any compressive accord, due before 30 June, had to include a “clear and unambiguous Iranian recognition of Israel’s right to exist”.

“Israel will not accept an agreement which allows a country that vows to annihilate us to develop nuclear weapons,” Mr Netanyahu asserted.  [Read more: Rouhani vows to abide by deal ]

Also read:

Iran Deal: President Obama Earns His Nobel

The Iran nuclear agreement, which was reached in Lausanne, Switzerland, on Thursday, is an incredible diplomatic victory for the United States. It contains terms that are far better than anyone would have expected. Short of dismantling altogether Iran’s nuclear establishments – and albeit leaving Iran as a threshold state – the US negotiators led by Secretary of State John Kerry have succeeded in getting Iran to agree to a complex, almost water proof set of limitations that aim at extending the time Iran would need to “break out’ and make a dash toward a nuclear weapon.

Take a look at the actual terms and conditions that the US negotiators got Iran to agree to:

  • Iran will give up around 14000 of its 20000 centrifuges.
  • Iran will only retain its most rudimentary, outdated ‘first-generation’ centrifuges.
  • Iran will be prohibited from building or developing newer models of centrifuges.
  • Iran has to give up all but 300 kilograms of its vast stockpile of 10000 kilograms of enriched uranium.
  • Iran will destroy or export the core of its plutonium plant at Arak.
  • Iran shall ship out all spent nuclear fuel.
  • There will be no enrichment activity at the underground Fordow site.
  • IAEA inspectors will monitor not only the nuclear facilities but the entire supply chain, including uranium mines and mills.
  • The heavy water reactor at Arak will be rebuilt so that it cannot produce weapons grade plutonium.

In return, Iran benefits out of the suspension of US and EU sanctions and the removal of UN sanctions. On the other hand, the agreement makes sure that a year-long warning of a potential Iranian break-out is available.

The strong verification measures will ensure that any Iranian clandestine effort to “break-out” can be detected. On the other hand, Iran retains a significant nuclear infrastructure, which it can expand in the fullness of time once the agreement expires and could form the basis for a significant nuclear industry.

In sum, the agreement reached yesterday can be seen as a diplomatic win-win. The agreement meets with the US’ core objective of making it impossible for Iran to possess nuclear weapons. And, from the Iranian viewpoint, the removal of the sanctions opens the door for Iran’s full integration with the international community, which could unlock the country’s huge economic potential and make it the next racy emerging market.

Yesterday’s agreement is not merely a matter of nuclear non-proliferation and the US-Iranian normalization is much more than a bilateral affair. The Middle East is not going to be the same again and international security benefits hugely. But more of that later.

What matters today is that the real winner is President Barack Obama. Six years after being awarded the Nobel, he earned it yesterday. Obama’s central foreign-policy proposition that dialogue and diplomacy are the best means of resolving the US’ differences with its adversaries has been vindicated.

This is indeed the finest hour, so far, of Obama’s presidency in the foreign-policy sphere – and he still has some 21 months to go. There was skepticism whether this professorial and austere president, famous for his aloofness, would stay the course with the engagement of Iran while under such withering and irrational criticism – at times very vicious attack, too, at a very personal level that is unpardonable in any mature democracy – from detractors at home and abroad regarding the propriety of what he was doing. But Obama persisted steadily and diligently, slowly and quietly with his compass tracking the day-to-day progress of negotiations.

For sure, Obama is the most underrated president in American history. What ultimately gave him moral and political strength would have been the strength of his democratic convictions. He knew the American people were with him.

– Indian Punchline – M K Bhadrakumar – April 3, 2015

http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2015/04/03/iran-deal-obama-earns-his-nobel/

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  • de castro  On April 4, 2015 at 3:13 am

    Political “saber rattling”…ranting.
    Believe neither !

  • de castro  On April 4, 2015 at 3:13 am

    Trust none.

  • albert  On April 4, 2015 at 10:38 am

    Those who follow global issues know this is a remarkable achievement. No one expected the US could hold together such an international team (including Europe, Russia, China) and would gain so many concessions from Iran. Netanyahu and the republican obstructionist have difficulty framing a proper response. If Obama had found a cure for Cancer they would have complain about the number of doctors it would put out of work.

    The article did not mention one major hurdle ahead: only the US Congress can remove the Congressional approved sanctions on Iran. This is where the Republicans can throw in a monkey wrench just to block Obama succeeding in anything, or they may cave in knowing there is no other option….except war.

  • Winston Yaw  On April 4, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    I think Israel should be concerned by this deal. Having said that, we need to be reminded that India, Israel, Pakistan and North Korea all developed nuclear weapons secretly until it was too late for the major powers to do anything about the reality of nukes. It only makes the world a more dangerous place, as other regional states would do the same to counter any threat of military dominance nukes would allow countries like Iran to wield. No one can forget the threats Ahmadinejad used as President of Iran. This deal kicks the can down the road, and I do believe Iran will continue its nuke weapons program in a more friendly economic environment with the lifting of sanctions, even with the intrusive inspections monitoring. Of course Iran’s people could get so enamored of the liberal economic environment, that the Iranian hawks would not have so much political(force) influence as they do now. Yeah if shit had wings it would fly. The reality is that a nuclear war would make this planet uninhabitable, but this has never been a concern of the jihadists. They expect to go to paradise where a surfeit of virgins await their lustful attentions after death

    • albert  On April 5, 2015 at 12:31 pm

      I am not so sure Israel developed nuclear weapons secretly. I think there was some European (France) help with the other s turning a blind eye….. ….anyhow that’s all history now.

      I have two fears with this deal:
      1) the US Congress through partisan politics are going to destroy this deal on the issue of sanctions. Coalition partners like China and India, for instance, are eager to trade with Iran with oil at a discount and are likely to NOT agree with US and there goes the coalition agreeing on sanctions.. Could the US sanction alone be effective? Obviously, Iran would then ignore any agreement and continue inreasing its centrifuge as it did before.

      2) Disagreement by the US which could lead to military action………..an enormous undertaking with unimaginable consequences and loss of lives. An incentive for Iran to build nuclear weapons to defend itself………they already have the know-how, its just a matter of getting the material and time. Russia and possibly China are likely to support Iran and there goes our peaceable world affair.

  • Thinker  On April 4, 2015 at 7:31 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_eschatology. Both Christians and Muslims agree that the end is nigh. So their politics will lead us all to Armageddon. If I had wings like a dove I would fly me to the Moon (or Mars) and be at rest.

  • de castro  On April 5, 2015 at 12:35 am

    Ha ha !
    Song comes to mind….

    Fly me to the moon
    And let me play amount the the starts
    Let me learn what life is like
    On Jupiter or mars….

    If its Armageddon…..as am so near to London it should be a ‘direct’ hit….
    BANG 😇
    Won’t wish to survive ….but the Amazonia seems the most likely place to be.

    Real estate a LA carte….jonestown reincarnate…

    Sorry can’t be serious.😬

    Sir kamtan lord of cherin Tarzan of amazonia. By appointment of HRH QE2 ukplc

  • de castro  On April 5, 2015 at 12:36 am

    Stars ! Not starts…..keyboard unfamiliarity 😇

  • de castro  On April 5, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    On a serious after note

    Netanyahu my man….
    Nukes in my back yard……no way. Won’t surprise me if he sends in his bombers.

    Am sure he will sort those Jehadists out…..
    Some fanatic Christians also.

    21st century Churchill !

    Que Sera sera

    • Thinker  On April 5, 2015 at 11:12 pm

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/not-his-finest-hour-the-dark-side-of-winston-churchill-2118317.html
      Churchill indeed. He might be your man but not for others who have a broader historical vision..

      • de castro  On April 6, 2015 at 4:26 am

        My friend
        Churchill was a “necessary evil” our world needed at the time.
        He was once described as a “war monger” a necessary evil.
        Isnt netanyahu also such ?

        Churchill was neccessity to stand against Nazi Germany….or you and I of colour would either speak German or be “removed”….

        For record am also “anti wars” pro struggle.

        Thanks for the reminder….we may forgive but should never forget.

        Only fools do…but am only “human”
        Que Sera sera

  • albert  On April 5, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    “Won’t surprise me if he sends in his bombers”
    Pray he does not do anything that foolish. America would have to save his ass.
    Many will die for nothing since Iran with hidden underground facilities would be able to build the nuke in 3-4 years………per U.S. military experts. What would Netanyahu do then.

    • de castro  On April 6, 2015 at 4:47 am

      What does a rat do when cornered……fight to death, do a Hitler, or press the button ?
      The choice is yours !

      My instinct tells me netantahu will not act on his own.
      Diplomacy works in war and peace.
      Military minds are irrational.

      Am myself a rational animal who grew up in a little village on east coast of demerara BG.

      Simple kamtan

  • albert  On April 6, 2015 at 10:12 am

    “Churchill and Hitler simply had different ideas on who was the “Master Race”.

    A point little known or said. If Churchill had his way all the British colonies would remain properties of Britain.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 6, 2015 at 1:25 pm

    Netanyahu is the glue that held the Iran-UN P5-plus Germany negotiators focused and together to the conclusion of the nuclear agreement. That is what I believe – no one was going to get up and walk away from that table and face Netanyahu alone and face defeat. He is fanning the flames of their motivation by being himself. Netanyahu will be contained at the UN. That is what I believe!!

    • de castro  On April 6, 2015 at 3:36 pm

      Wish I shared your confidence in the UN s ability to resolve matters….
      USA has supported Israel in past…..will they continue to do so if netanyahu
      attacks Iran….?
      Doubt it ….publicly.
      Privately maybe !

      Am sure if netanyahu has enough “evidence” he will attack regardless of UN
      s approval….did not george w and tony Blair attack Iraq.
      What a disaster that has proven.

  • de castro  On April 6, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    Yes even USA ….
    Power corrupts ultimate power corrupts ultimately !

    The political class is what divides our world.!

    Que Sera sera

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 6, 2015 at 5:00 pm

    de Castro: I am an outsider, like you, but I suspect I am a bit more knowledgeable than you are on this subject. In fact, I do not believe that Israel will attack Iran – in other words, I firmly believe that Israel will NOT attack Iran.

    The absolute change in the dynamics of the USA-Israel relationship has a lot to do with what we witnessed over the past few months – everything!! You may have missed it, but it is the United Nations Security Council, plus Germany that is negotiating with Iran. Trying to keep a group like that together for months on end is challenging to say the least. Someone said it before me – Colonel Wilkerson, the former Chief of Staff to General Colin Powell said that the ingredients of this deal are exceptional. I believe him.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 6, 2015 at 5:18 pm

    Folks,

    We can extrapolate all we want about the wisdom of Netanyahu’s words and or actions, with respect to the current “nuck” talks, with Iran, but if one was residing in a country, where one’s very existence can end in a moment’s time, at the hands of a nuclear Iran, one would certainly be thinking like the honourable gentleman. If one can only take a hike from one’s armchair in a free country, and reflect as to how and why one got there in the first place, all the idle barking would be seen for what it is,” balderdash”.

  • Thinker  On April 7, 2015 at 3:32 am

    In other words, just because we fled the Third world we have no right to comment on anything. Limit our perspectives. We are not worthy. Sounds like the old “colonial” mentality to me.

    • de castro  On April 7, 2015 at 4:12 am

      Exactly…we are not to have opinions…..we are but “lambs” to be sacrificed….
      or in the thinking of the ruling class ” humans” to be sacrificed.

      Did not Hitler and Churchill lead their flock in similar way ?

      Am the advocate of peace not war.
      However if attacked will defend myself…kill in self defence is legally acceptable….may add in British law …am innocent until proven guilty.
      Unlike my american brothers who are guilty until they can prove innocence….not to mention the compromise of “plea bargaining”…. $ 🗽

      Every conflict has a diplo/politico solution…..exception religio one.

      The ways of our world

  • albert  On April 7, 2015 at 10:27 am

    Global issues which could involve the US in an unnecessary war and risk the lives of our young people is of major concern to me as an American citizen. Anyone who has a problem with that, well its their problem.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 7, 2015 at 11:39 am

    Thank You, Thinker! Thank You, de Castro! Thank You, Albert! I was hoping to not be the one to reply to that “Special Snowflake”.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 9, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    Hi folks,
    Nice to have you come on board, except it seemed that you have forgotten your paddles. I agree completely that all should be given the privilege of free speech, but in the eyes of some, I don’t seem to qualify. It is a known fact that when individuals are cornered, physically or intellectually, they strike out. Netanyahu in my opinion is justified in striking out in any manner he thinks is appropriate, and only Israel should determine the appropriateness of its actions. In this context, some of you have struck out at me, in a manner of verbiage, and name calling. I have been designated the labels of “Colonialist”, “white supremacist”, ‘Special Snowflake”, etc., but that does not bother me one bit. You see, I am intelligent enough, and knowledgeable enough, to discern the mind- sets of those who are likely to utter them. Remember the days in British Guiana, when Burnham straddled his white stallion, and rode the colonial horse all around Georgetown, commanding his flock to say and eat what he prescribed, and Jagan extolling the benefits of “vote for your mattie”, his followers complying to the hypnotic effects of same? I have news for you, nothing has changed; the slave trade and indentureship,are alive and well; mentality is difficult to enhance or affect. Now to turn to that “comic” of a president in the good old USA. Recently on television, he derided a prospective Republican candidate, by calling him foolish; he also claimed that his only concern for the socalled Iran deal. is what could happen in the years 20015, 16 and 17. Now wherein lies the greatness of this deal? Finally, on television and in the White House, while making a presentation and bestowing some honour to poet Maya Angelou, he erroneously credited her with the authorship of the poem ” I know why the caged bird sings”. The poem was actually written by Paul Lawrence Dunbar. One can only hope that the USA does not disintegrate before his term is up. I would recommend that all and sundry return to the armchair, un-cork his bottle, and do like the sign says on entering the Barbados Airport, “Welcome to Barbados; Now relax.”

    • Thinker  On April 9, 2015 at 4:48 pm

      Your comment was that it was all “balderdash” comiing from people who had left places like Guyana. No one denies that Netanyahu has the right to look after his countries interests as he sees fit. Nevertheless he can be considered an extremist. Shin Beth does not necessarily agree with him. http://www.jpost.com/Israel-Elections/Ex-Shin-Bet-chief-Netanyahu-is-not-Mr-security-as-he-claims-389718
      We can point that out as people who try to keep up with foreign affairs. Your comment was extremely condescending.
      As for Obama’s mistake you probably are unaware that Maya Angelou wrote a book by that very name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Know_Why_the_Caged_Bird_Sings
      He or his speech-writer could have been confused. Not a major crime.Perhaps you can recommend you favourite US politician and see how he shapes up under scrutiny. Cruz, Paul or any of the Bushes?
      One doesn’t have to be a colonialist to have a “colonial mentality”. As a matter of fact it is the natives who are more like to have the.latter when they accept that “Massa knows best”. and decry others who think for themselves. .

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 9, 2015 at 5:05 pm

    Paul Laurence Dunbar – Sympathy: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/175756

    The quote attributed to Maya Angelou originated with Joan Walsh Anglund, the author of the 1967 book A Cup of Sun: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/04/08/398317105/maya-angelous-forever-stamp-forever-in-error

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 9, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    Let us not split hairs as to the author of the original quote, about the “caged bird”, be it Dunbar, Anglund etc. One thing is certain, it was not Maya Angelou, and Obama should have been aware of it, by doing his homework. You can be sure that my favourite politician is certainly not going to be Obama, or any of his untrustworthy cronies, like the Clintons. We already know how they have shaped up: Bill in the “ORAL” office, and lying about it to boot, and Hillary in her capacity as Secretary of State as well as her e-mail fiasco, and not being truthful about them both. I suspect that the Democrats are going to draw a blank this time.

  • Thinker  On April 9, 2015 at 9:00 pm

    We can all find petty stuff to criticize Obama for. But there is a larger issue. He has been deliberately insulted because the right doesn’t want him to succeed. Cheney and Juliani are just the latest. Basically they are not comfortable with who he is. Same hatred for the A-G Holder. The voter identification masquerable is the make sure that minorities don’t have too much influence. People are only now beginning to understand the US, especially the South. But then again as someone said: “everywhere south of Canada is the South”..
    http://politic365.com/2012/01/27/the-10-worst-moments-of-disrespect-towards-president-obama/

  • albert  On April 9, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    How interesting. The man has nothing intellectually to add to our discussion of a global issue. He seeks instead to air his anger at been driven out of Guyana and his dislike of Obama, Clinton over petty stuff.

    Time and energy is limited my friend. Go and find something above newspaper gossip to discuss.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 9, 2015 at 10:41 pm

    Oh, Thinker – allow me to amend “The 10-Worst Moments of Disrespect …” —–

    1. The birther fiasco (2009-2011). No evidence. No proof. No documentation. But the story traveled on for years. Yes, Hawaii is part of the United States of America. [– and President Obama’s mother is a born American citizen, therefore, it would not have mattered where in the world Barack Hussein Obama was born – just like Canadian-born, Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz – President Obama said some time ago, “I wish I could use my middle name.”]

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 9, 2015 at 11:08 pm

    You are darn right. there is a certain degree of anger at being driven out of one’s country, by people with a mentality like yours. It would appear that you were angry too; you left from wherever that was; maybe you can’t articulate that either. But that is your problem. You claim that the mismanagement of Obama, and both Hilary and Bill Clinton(who was impeached), and the ruthless ways in which they LIED about them is petty stuff. WOW…….. That’s why places like Guyana will remain what it is; a “Wasteland”.

    This rest of this entry has been edited by Guyanese Online as it is a personal attack.

    • Thinker  On April 10, 2015 at 6:07 am

      Obama is certainly not above criticism. But how exactly has he mismanaged so terribly? Is he some sort of Manchurian candidate as suggested by Mr. Cheney? of he doesn’t love his country as suggested by Juliani? In cleaning up after Bush what major mistakes did he make? Enquiring minds want to know.

  • compton de castro  On April 9, 2015 at 11:09 pm

    Fast forward….
    Hilary is to enter fray….😯what r her chances 1 to 10 of success.
    Will Obama endorse his second lady….?

    She must be in with a chance…..politricks 😴
    First female president !👜

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 10, 2015 at 12:55 am

    De Castro: It is 50-50 at the moment. Hillary will declare her candidacy on Sunday, 12 April 2015 – there is all of this year and next, with a lot of twists and turns – including finding out after the current shake out who is representing the Republican-Tea Party – that is entertainment at its best. I see Rand Paul had his campaign stage set-up alongside an aircraft carrier, today, with his poster stating: “Defeat the Washington Machine”. You have got to see this picture – big massive war machine paid for by Washington and the people’s tax dollars – say what? I say, young man – Rand, you must change that slogan if you want to win!

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 10, 2015 at 2:01 am

    UPDATE: I just left the blog and went to the news to find that Lincoln Chafee, former Governor of Rhode Island announced that he is exploring a possible run for President of the USA as a Democratic candidate in 2016.

    This man is the only Republican that voted against the callous and contrived war in Iraq. Chafee abandoned the Republican-Tea Party to sit as an Independent before signing up as a Democrat. It appears no one saw this bomb coming at the Clinton Campaign. Given the mess the Iraq War created, I would amend the odds of her representing the Democrats, if she has to go against Chafee. This could be interesting – if he decides to run!!

  • compton de castro  On April 10, 2015 at 4:56 am

    Clyde
    Thanks…..
    As a general rule don’t like to support politicians who switch sides…..
    But in american politricks it may be more common.
    UK
    If I am upper class (rich class) I vote conservative
    If I am working class (middle poor class) I vote labour
    If I am neither vote others….liberal ukip green independant.

    Seldom will a conservative vote labour
    More likely a labour vote others or conservative…..swing vote.!

    Its a first past post system so will most likely end up wot “coalition” government.

    600+ MPs for 60m is “waste of tax payers money”
    There is lobbying to half that number and scrap “upper house” house of lords.

    Guyana the situ worse…
    65 MPs for less than a million……hey that s 10 times worse.

    Political rethinking/reformation necessary.

    My spill

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 10, 2015 at 11:21 am

    I wonder if referring to someone as a “white supremacist”, or “special snowflake” is in tune with the standards of tis blog?

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 10, 2015 at 11:23 am

    not “tis” but “this”

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 10, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    The “Special Snowflake” Syndrome of American Conservatives by Rachel191 – Daily Kos [in part]: The “religious freedom” debacles in Indiana and Arkansas have illustrated a lot of important points lately. The big one, of course, is that we as a society are moving past the point where it is socially acceptable to harbour animus toward another human being because of their sexual orientation, and try to find refuge in the law for discriminatory impulses that arise from that animus.

    But there’s another important one that should not be overlooked. It’s the religious far-right’s “special snowflake” syndrome. That’s really what the entire conversation is about: conservative Christians thinking that because they believe God sanctions their particular brand of bigotry, they are special snowflakes who shouldn’t be retrained by human decency, much less the pesky laws that the rest of us are obliged to follow. If you hate hard enough, the rules don’t apply to you.

    Because you are a special snowflake, who really, really believes in what you’re doing; your feelings about something make you so special that the law just ceases to apply to special little you.

    All animals are equal, but animals who profess a strongly held belief are more equal.

    Or so conservatives, and their overly broad interpretations of religious freedom, seem to have convinced themselves. And then along comes the Indiana skirmish, and all of a sudden this isn’t a given any more. Along the lines of “your right to swing your fist ends where the other fellow’s nose begins” people, it seems, are not willing to make the same allowance for belief when it impacts people beyond the believer as they are when it concerns just the believer.

    In other words, people still haven’t lost sight of the only sensible view of religious liberty there is: we should all be free to live according to our consciences, up until the moment that those consciences drive us to impose our beliefs on another person. In a world full of competing, often contradictory ideas, this is the only view of religious liberty that is feasible, or could possibly be evenly applied.

    And it’s a far cry from the special snowflake syndrome conservatives seem to be suffering from…because, at the end of the day, none of us are, or should be, special snowflakes in the eyes of the law; and none of us should have a trump card to use at the expense of our neighbours.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 10, 2015 at 2:13 pm

    Who’s Afraid of the Big Bad Bomb? [in part]
    04/04/15 – Uri Avnery

    I MUST start with a shocking confession: I am not afraid of the Iranian nuclear bomb.

    I know that this makes me an abnormal person, almost a freak.

    But what can I do? I am unable to work up fear, like a real Israeli. Try as I may, the Iranian bomb does not make me hysterical.

    MY FATHER once taught me how to withstand blackmail: imagine that the awful threat of the blackmailer has already come about. Then you can tell him: Go to hell.

    I have tried many times to follow this advice and found it sound. So now I apply it to the Iranian bomb: I imagine that the worst has already happened: the awful ayatollahs have got the bombs that can eradicate little Israel in a minute.

    So what?

    According to foreign experts, Israel has several hundred nuclear bombs (assessments vary between 80-400. If Iran sends its bombs and obliterates most of Israel (myself included), Israeli submarines will obliterate Iran. Whatever I might think about Binyamin Netanyahu, I rely on him and our security chiefs to keep our “second strike” capability intact. Just last week we were informed that Germany had delivered another state-of-the-art submarine to our navy for this purpose.

    Israeli idiots – and there are some around – respond: “Yes, but the Iranian leaders are not normal people. They are madmen. Religious fanatics. They will risk the total destruction of Iran just to destroy the Zionist state. Like exchanging queens in chess.”

    Such convictions are the outcome of decades of demonizing. Iranians – or at least their leaders – are seen as subhuman miscreants.

    Reality shows us that the leaders of Iran are very sober, very calculating politicians. Cautious merchants in the Iranian bazaar style. They don’t take unnecessary risks. The revolutionary fervour of the early Khomeini days is long past, and even Khomeini would not have dreamt of doing anything so close to national suicide.

    ACCORDING TO the Bible, the great Persian King Cyrus allowed the captive Jews of Babylon to return to Jerusalem and rebuild their temple. At that time, Persia was already an ancient civilization – both cultural and political.

    After the “return from Babylon”, the Jewish commonwealth around Jerusalem lived for 200 years under Persian suzerainty. I was taught in school that these were happy years for the Jews.

    Since then, Persian culture and history has lived through another two and a half millennia. Persian civilization is one of the oldest in the world. It has created a great religion and influenced many others, including Judaism. Iranians are fiercely proud of that civilization.

    To imagine that the present leaders of Iran would even contemplate risking the very existence of Persia out of hatred of Israel is both ridiculous and megalomaniac.

    Moreover, throughout history, relations between Jews and Persians have almost always been excellent. When Israel was founded, Iran was considered a natural ally, part of David Ben-Gurion’s “strategy of the periphery” – an alliance with all the countries surrounding the Arab world.

    The Shah, who was re-installed by the American and British secret services, was a very close ally. Teheran was full of Israeli businessmen and military advisers. It served as a base for the Israeli agents working with the rebellious Kurds in northern Iraq who were fighting against the regime of Saddam Hussein.

    After the Islamic revolution, Israel still supported Iran against Iraq in their cruel 8-year war. The notorious Irangate affair, in which my friend Amiram Nir and Oliver North played such an important role, would not have been possible without the old Iranian-Israeli ties.

    Even now, Iran and Israel are conducting amiable arbitration proceedings about an old venture: the Eilat-Ashkelon oil pipeline built jointly by the two countries.

    If the worst comes to the worst, nuclear Israel and nuclear Iran will live in a Balance of Terror.

    Highly unpleasant, indeed. But not an existential menace.

    HOWEVER, FOR those who live in terror of the Iranian nuclear capabilities, I have a piece of advice: Use the time we still have.

    Please use this time for making peace. – [I say, start a conversation. -clyde]

  • albert  On April 10, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    Iran getting the nuke is one problem. Worst is that others (eg Saudi Arabia) have indicated that if Iran succeed they too will also have their nuke. With a nuke world who need life insurance.

    • compton de castro  On April 11, 2015 at 12:19 am

      Absolute hilarious laughter….
      Seriously
      Living near London Gatwick just hope the missiles hit their target…..
      Won’t want to survive the aftermath or Armageddon.
      World reincarnate…..am sure fishes and insects may survive.
      Think I will return as either….or even a pig in middle east.

      Sorry can’t be serious !🐷

      My children and grandchildren will change our world…hopefully for a better one.

      Que Sera sera

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 10, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    Here we go again; We now quote the bowel content of the Daily Kos, that extremely LIBERAL left wing weblog in the US. I am now being assigned the label “Conservative Bigot”, shrouded by the caption “Special Snowflake”. I must indicate, that I was never impressed by individuals who denigrate Christianity,in order to make some kind of a point, or resort to the prognostication of another’s left wing liberal ideas; we must be man enough, and present our own. Yes Obama is a completely useless entity. Here he is negotiating with a country, whose “head of state” deems the USA. the great Satan, and Israel, a state that must not exist. I wonder how the USA would respond if their existence was threatened by Iran, in a similar way. Talking about believing things, it is indeed not far fetched to conceive, that at this present moment, and up to the 30th June “deadline”, Iran would have be working on building more centrifuges, hidden in the bowels of its territory, that the “inspectors” would never find, and laughing at the US in the process. Conventional wisdom seems to be that Iran cannot be trusted. Couple these facts with the great potential of other countries in the area resorting to the development of their own nuclear bombs, and you are left with an Obama “baby”. I say, impose stronger sanctions, for however long it takes, and when the time is ripe, act.

  • albert  On April 10, 2015 at 10:37 pm

    This is strictly your view not that of US military intelligence. Firstly the sanctions are applied by many other countries other than the US. The coalitions partners are unlikely to go the route of the US. China and India are eager to take advantage of the cheap Iranian oil, while Russia and France have moved away. Can US sanctions alone work without the others. Doubtful.

    It is true the claim is that Iran can build those centrifuge in very deep remote underground areas. Locations that the most sophisticate bombs cannot reach, assuming they know where they are. But the nuclear processing operation require raw material, which military intelligence have an hand on and can determine any draw down to tell whether Iran is cheating……..as a seconfd control of the verifycation process. If no agreement is reach by June 30th All US sanctions will do is strenghten the resolve of the Iranian to defend themselves. Military experts claim all the bombing will do is postpone the completion of the bomb making process.

    Do you think the rest of the Arab world would support the US in this scenario. Not likely. In fact China and Russia would love to see us slide more by helping Iran……….Finally, Iran is not Iraq. it would take years of bombing and they have the capability to hit our targets around the world.
    The unfortunate thing about our country is that many of our political leaders are terribly uninformed about global affairs and might get us into a war because of that ignorance.

  • compton de castro  On April 11, 2015 at 12:26 am

    Wars are a necessary evil…..peace but a dream.!
    History teaches us of our tribal origins…..some pagan others worshipers.

    Am a believer in an interlect above ours (aliens?)
    But I worship none.

    My spill

    Que Sera sera

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 11, 2015 at 3:58 am

    14 April 1865 – A very special date in USA History – 5-Minute Forecast

    Next Tuesday marks the 150th anniversary of President Abraham Lincoln’s assassination at the hands of failed oilman John Wilkes Booth.

    You didn’t know Booth was a failed oilman? Our resident oil field geologist Byron King brought us up to speed recently.

    In 1863, Booth and several friends formed the Dramatic Oil Co., to put down oil wells near the then-boomtown of Titusville, Pennsylvania. In mid-1864, the company began an oil well named Wilhelmina 1. But this hole in the ground wasn’t the success for which they hoped. After completion, Wilhelmina 1 yielded only a paltry 25 barrels of oil per day.

    “In order to squeeze more oil from the well, Booth and his colleagues bought into a plan to blast the well with high explosives, and thereby increase oil output.

    “Booth and his partners hired a man to drop an explosive device called a ‘torpedo’ down the well, to blow up and fracture the rock. The torpedo was developed by a Union Civil War veteran named Edward Roberts. The idea was to use gunpowder to blast the rock walls and create cracks and voids through which oil could flow.”

    Yup… a primitive form of fracking. Alas, it didn’t work.

    “Not only did it not increase oil production,” says Byron, “it ruined the well, such that it stopped yielding any oil at all. The effort ended in disaster, and Booth lost his entire investment.”

    Booth’s desperation for cash led him to a meeting with Confederate sympathizers in Montreal. “They handed Booth a sizable amount of money,” Byron goes on. “Booth headed back to Baltimore and Washington, making plans for his eventual attack on Lincoln.

    “Absent the down-hole explosive disaster at Titusville, and if Booth’s oil well had delivered more petroleum, would the oilman have murdered the U.S. president?”

    Now you know…

    There is more to this date in history – 14 April – check it out:

    In 1775, the first American society for the abolition of slavery was formed in Philadelphia.
    In 1912, the British liner RMS Titanic collided with an iceberg in the North Atlantic and sank.
    In 1949, at the conclusion of the “Wilhelmstrasse Trial”, 19 former Nazi Foreign Office officials were sentenced by an American tribunal in Nuremberg to prison terms ranging from 4 to 25 years – and they all have been re-incarnated as special snowflakes, that is what I believe.

    Thought for Today: “As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy.” — Abraham Lincoln, 1809-1865.

  • compton de castro  On April 11, 2015 at 6:14 am

    History was never my favourite subject……american history even less.

    However history does influence our future generations.

    As we move forward.

    What the the assinators motive…..? Money fame revenge ?

    motive in murder can be clouded in legal interpretations/arguments.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 11, 2015 at 12:00 pm

    de Castro: Check out this link pertaining to John Wilkes Booth’s motive for assassinating President Lincoln – rabid-hatred at the thought of African Americans being free to participate in President Abraham Lincoln’s idea of a democratic USA.

    In my opinion, President Obama is only know implementing some of what John Wilkes Booth prevented by killing President Abraham Lincoln in 1865.

    There is one more confusing aspect to this, for you, de Castro. Lincoln was a Republican. But, so was Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. … – The Democrats were against abolition of slavery – you still have some more reading to do:

    http://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/24242

    • compton de castro  On April 11, 2015 at 2:42 pm

      Surprise surprise…..guess it was “demise ” of one empire “birth of another”….

      Royal supremacy to wealth supremacy.

      Question
      Where is all the ” quantative easing” money now ?💲

      UK USA printing presses have been busy…..ECB (German) has not printed any
      extra EUROS ! SWISS not supporting euro anymore….
      Think par EURO USD is imminent….willful.

      Now must get on with all the “homework” you have set me. 😁

      Seriously
      Obama knows that any society with a major middle class will prosper….commonsense economics.

      Just hope Hilary continues his efforts….with equality of sexes….
      Gays et Al….

      Thanks for the homework….😴

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 11, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    14-Facts About The Obama Presidency That Most People Do Not Know ….. http://jeff61b.hubpages.com/hub/14-Facts-About-The-Obama-Presidency-That-Most-People-Dont-Know

    • albert  On April 11, 2015 at 4:21 pm

      and to booth this is only part of his accomplishment in the face of continuous resistance and disrespect by the republicans. They would rather have the country fail than see Obama succeed.

  • compton de castro  On April 11, 2015 at 2:45 pm

    All that glitters is not gold…..only Obama s legacy will tell.
    Not unlike Thatcher hard act to follow…Hilary ! Have my doubts.😇

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 11, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    de Castro: I shared something about potential competition for Clinton – in this thread. Voting for the Iraq War is unforgiveable. That guy who stood up against the evil empire – alone, I should add – he defied all of the Republican-Tea Party, before signing up with the Democrats, he may be the next President of the USA – if he runs! Lincoln Chafee …

  • compton de castro  On April 11, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    Hilary will be favourite if Obama endorses her. Whoever follows Obama
    will not get “second” term. 4 years is enough to change minds and hearts.
    Some lobbying for 2/3 year terms….UK its 5 years.
    A looong time in politricks !

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 11, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    UPDATE: I just checked out the news and saw Lionel Chafee being interviewed. He went to school with Jeb Bush – in the same class and in the same dormitory; they played table tennis and know each other very well. Interesting! If he runs..

  • compton de castro  On April 11, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    You can’t be serious…..the bushes family has failed america….no more embarrassments please…..Q is jeb bush republican also….? Or has he switched
    sides also…..?😈

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 11, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    Jeb Bush is Republican with advisors and backers from his father and brother’s administrations. Jeb Bush represents the worst of USA politics – Republican-Tea Party.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 11, 2015 at 6:46 pm

    Hi fellow students.

    Did you hear about the content of today’s history class (Hi.101)? Well, the following will be discussed;

    -Obama makes direct contact with Castro, he just could not wait.

    -Obama throws away his filthy “pot” for a good (Cuban Cigar).

    -most blacks in America were members of Lincoln”s Republican Tea Party.

    -should Hilary switch parties, now that Lionel Chafee and Jeb Bush would be on the democratic ticket despite having father and brother Bush as backers.

    -should Hillary drop out of the race;(too much baggage).

    -should Bill become a streaker, in the White House?

    -where was democratic support during Linc’s era?

    -Iranian leadership and B.H.Obama to meet in Israel under the chairmanship of Bin. Netanyahu, with a big stick in hand, to discuss who should be struck first.

    Believe me, after this class, you would have learnt a lot. Contact Prof. C.D., for more information.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 11, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    Hey,

    Did you know that Abe. was a Jew? The only problem was he didn’t know who his mother or father were.

  • compton de castro  On April 11, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    An orphan….? Illegitimate son of a plantation owner of slaves ?

    Most white plantation owners interbred with their female slaves….as
    concubines and even gave their offsprings their names….in some cases an education and title to lands….in exchange for sexual favours.
    Kings of England also gave titles to lands to barbaric Scots in exchange for their loyalties.History of the tribal behaviour of humans is full of barbarism.
    In today’s language “uncivilised”….
    Saw a clip of Chimpanzees attacking a mother of other tribe , snatching baby
    killing and eating it…even sharing with his clan.
    Canabilism is tribal …in Amazonia Indians eat their victims to inherit their spirit.
    Human sacrifices were also practiced.

    Call me ” alien” ..its a compliment.
    Mexicans crossing into USA ….stigmatised as “aliens”…. Why not legalise
    their entry in first place.

    Think have opened can of worms !😇😈

  • Thinker  On April 12, 2015 at 8:26 am

    This thread is getting crazier by the day. Of course Jeb Bush is a Republican, one shouldn’t have to ask. He is NOT a Tea-Partyer and will be viciously opposed by Ted Cruz who represents the Tea-Party interests.. Most Blacks supported the Republican Party up to the 60’s since the segregationist South was Democratic.Lincoln’s Jewish ancestry is likely true but he certainly knew his parents http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/education/father.htm

  • de castro  On April 12, 2015 at 9:20 am

    Thinker
    Thanks your historical update on Lincoln.
    My comparisons of humans to animals can upset many but lets hope they are as open minded on the subject.
    My imaginations also sometimes get the better of me….but always try to remain focused and realistic.
    Hey we never stop learning.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 12, 2015 at 11:50 am

    Is someone suggesting that that there are no segregationists from the South, East, West, and North, perhaps he or she, should do their homework. Mr. BILL C. just came under ridicule with a comment, aired on CNN( reliable sources)today. Are the DEMS. taking the black vote for granted? Don’t allow it; time to be open minded and awake.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 12, 2015 at 11:52 am

    Segregationists in the Democratic Party…

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 12, 2015 at 12:43 pm

    CNN – Maya Angelou’s deep ties with Bill [and Hilary] Clinton: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/28/maya-angelous-deep-ties-with-bill-clinton-politics/

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 12, 2015 at 8:41 pm

    Hi,

    So old Hillary is running for President. She claims that she is running as a “Woman”; what was she before? She seems to be afraid to face the public, but instead decides to hide behind a video. Now that video was a riot. Here are a few flashes: showing a family packing up to move, where to, who knows; receiving a kiss from Judas: Hilary doing some gardening and playing with dirt; and towards the end, a lovely male couple holding hands, and flashing two “infectious’ smiles, in the “Garden of Eden” that Hillary was tilling, as they head toward the sunset. All these flashes appear to be indicative of an expected political exit for the poor soul. Nowhere can her husband Billy be seen, even though he is so photogenic. Maybe he is seen as too much of an albatross at last. I wouldn’t doubt that she might be heading for retirement in Canada, post election, as she claims that she has French Canadian ancestry. Could it be Newfoundland?

    • de castro  On April 13, 2015 at 1:19 am

      Hilary can only be president if obamarama endorses her nomination.
      Q Will he or is there another ?

      Long time yet !😴

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 13, 2015 at 8:10 am

    In Cuba, yesterday, Obama spoke of Hillary Clinton in glowing terms. At the very end of his remarks he said, “but I am not running”. What the heck does that mean,; is that an endorsement?

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 13, 2015 at 9:01 am

    It obviously means that the competition will research and regurgitate all that Candidate Obama said during the 2008 primary, and present it as a contradiction.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 13, 2015 at 11:22 am

    NO….

    That is a blatant and lame dismissal of the preponderant opinion, on all sides, that Obama does not endorse Hillary Clinton. Call a spade a spade. Was Obama fibbing then and still is? Then it is clear that he is untrustworthy, and always has been as president; look up the record of lies, tagged to his name.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 13, 2015 at 12:16 pm

    Just learnt that, that dog Putin has agreed to send missiles to Iran, despite previous agreement on sanctions. The other participants to the agreement are meeting. GET RID OF THE Obama agreement with Iran. It is a BIG joke; be real;Obama does not know his head from his ass…e

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 13, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    U.N. sanctions don’t restrict the supply of air-defense weapons to Iran, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said. Russia applied the S-300 ban in September 2010 as a goodwill gesture to stimulate progress in nuclear talks with Tehran and form a united front with other world powers taking part in negotiations, he added. The recent framework agreed with Iran to eliminate its nuclear program has now removed the need for the ban, Mr. Lavrov argued.

    “Taking into account the very tense situation in the surrounding area, modern air defense systems are very important to Iran,” Mr. Lavrov added.

    “At this stage, we believe the need for this kind of embargo, and a separate voluntary Russian embargo, has completely disappeared,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Monday. “I note that the S-300 air-defense missile system, which is exclusively of a defensive nature, is not suited for the purposes of attack and doesn’t threaten the security of any governments in the region, including, of course, Israel.” – Paul Sonne – The Wall Street Journal

  • de castro  On April 13, 2015 at 12:53 pm

    Obviously “foreign policy” is not one of America s strengths…..
    International diplomacy is very complex but “trust” is of the essence.
    If we do not “trust” how can we move forward.

    Did not Stalin trust Hitler before switching sides.?
    Jesus trusted his deciples but did not Judas betray his trust.
    We trust our family and friends until they betray us.

    Sometimes sincerity in our words and actions can be “misunderstood”
    “misinterpreted” even “mistaken”…but we must start somewhere if we are
    to move forward.

    French is the language of diplomacy. Why ?
    English not the best…american as bad.
    Maybe we should return to Latin.
    Language of scholars….even Greek.!

    Obama v Putin ….round 1 Putin…..
    How many rounds before its “war”….

    So we are back to the “cold war” issues.

    There are enough nukes to destroy the planet 10 times over….
    If its Armageddon ..so be it ! The insects and fishes will reincarnate.
    Darwin reincarnate…

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 13, 2015 at 6:13 pm

    If UN sanctions do not restrict defence weapons being shipped to Iran by Russia, then any deal with Iran is meaningless. Obama is taking us down the garden path, while Russia and Iran are laughing at his idiocy. Time to scuttle the “deal”, and act appropriately, NOW.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 13, 2015 at 8:06 pm

    Somebody must have a problem with English comprehension, or they are off their medication again. The negotiation is between the United Nations Security Council and Germany [P5 and Germany] – Russia clearly stated that they invoked a “separate voluntary embargo” in order to “form a united front with other world powers taking part in negotiations [with Iran]”. Now that there is a framework agreement in place, then there is no need for a separate voluntary Russian embargo. Next, they must codify and sign the agreement.

    Speaking of medications and food supplements: Guyanese-born, Cedric Thompson posted an excellent article on proper storage and disposal on this blog – check it out here: https://guyaneseonline.wordpress.com/2015/04/11/medical-storage-of-medications-and-food-supplements-by-cedric-thompson/

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 13, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    Me na only study English language and lit lit, me na no wah you men by comprehend who, but wa me no is me study a latin to. Look me member amo amas amat amamuouse a matis a mant… ama bo bis bit bimus bitis ama bunt or is et but. eram erass(me no tis one good) erat eramus erati errant. Is da wha he doing now? he ranting lik mad. me can tink strait now, even dough me na spell too good. me finish wid dat one. Me meds is god to. me jus tek one a dem ting. Wha me comprehend is tis. Obama is a jok. he na comprehend eiter. he caant see farter dan e nos, too much pot smok man. Iran a tek all dat smok an mek smok screen. he gan smok Olbama out, and he useless UN wo na pay fes. demm all a jok. ha..ha..ha..ha..ha…………..next tim me gon giv Histry les.201.hop ya tun in.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 13, 2015 at 8:45 pm

    me get tek off because me writ in latin

  • de castro  On April 14, 2015 at 12:37 am

    Gentlemen
    UN has past its sell by date the day george w and Tony liar Blair invaded Iraq.
    Both did not wait for UN s mandate.
    UN stemmed from League of nations post WW2.
    It must now “reinvent” itself as “peacekeepers” of the planet.
    Google UN for more info details.
    China and Russia have always vetoed or abstained on major issues.
    Why !😇
    Silence is sometimes golden.
    If silent no lie detector works.

    Its this simple…
    Two idiots fighting…..get involved and you may get your share.
    Observe the results then decide.
    Cowardly or diplomacy !😇 the decision is yours.

    Commonsence approach to decision making.

    Sir kamtan lord of cherin by appointment to HRH QE2 UKPLC

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 14, 2015 at 2:01 am

    de Castro: I still do not get your argument. The United Nations and Germany is dealing with Iran. No one knows at this stage if the finalized deal will be signed and concluded – given the bitter racial hatred of the Republican-Tea Party and their obstructionist antics since President Obama took office – who knows? But the United Nations [P5 and Germany] is doing an effective job with Iran.

    What is your point?

  • albert  On April 14, 2015 at 9:28 am

    Fellows the bottom line is that stopping Iran from building the the bomb is not achieveable…..bombing cannot stop them, US sanctions cannot stop them……the only thing achieveable is delaying their ability to build one……which they are agreeing to.

    War hungry Netanyahu and those far right groups might initiate bombing……..in which case be loving to your children of military age.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 14, 2015 at 10:59 am

    Albert: Let me address your concerns about Netanyahu again – Greater minds than mine have said it over and over again – Israel will not attack Iran. So, discard that option. The most recent voice was responding to another of those extremist American Jews, David Goldman, [I honestly cannot stand to read anything the reckless Goldman writes, but he advocates war] –

    M.K. Bhadrakumar, a former career Indian diplomat mentioned, in a response to David Goldman that he seriously doubts the capability of Israel to embark on an “eventual military strike” against Iran without drawing an exceedingly destructive retribution that a country whose economy depends heavily on American financial support simply cannot afford.

    That is, even assuming that such a strike conclusively would destroy Iran’s knowhow and expertise as a “threshold power.” Let us rule out an Israeli military option from rational discussions. And Israel has no dearth of rational minds, Bhadrakumar added.

    Goldman mentions nut-jobs like John Bolton in his diatribe – one of the same bunch who advocated bombing Iraq – Every day we are reminded of the consequences of that escapade. As long as the USA holds the purse strings, the USA decides. Barack Obama is the President of the USA.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 14, 2015 at 11:13 am

    There is one more thing about Bhadrakumar’s response that I wanted to share: Goldman mentioned Professor Ephraim Inbar [Director of Begin-Sadat Centre for Strategic Studies] – another advocate for war –

    Bhadrakumar: Where Prof. Inbar is going horribly wrong is the hope he reposes on PM Netanyahu to attack Iran. To my mind, the saving grace in all this is that the Israeli Prime Minister is a hard-headed realist who knows you live only once. He also knows man doesn’t live by rhetoric alone.

  • de castro  On April 14, 2015 at 2:18 pm

    Unless UN does the job it was supposed to do….prevent WW3 it serves no purpose…..just a talk shop. If Iran succeeds in obtaining a nuke it is for the UN
    to decide what will happen if they used it….with the support of every nation member to vote on the issue. So anyone who decides to ” abuse” its use
    as a deterant and not WMD can expect ROW to act in tandem.
    Alternative Armageddon.
    Can UN now command that respect ?😈

  • albert  On April 14, 2015 at 2:26 pm

    In the American system the ones who determine US action are the wealthy lobbyist and financial political supporters ……..and in this case the military leaders on whose advice Congress and the President make decisions. Even the President authority could be nullified when Congress has a veto proof majority, as is becoming likely in the case of Iran.

    If Netanyahu decides to attack Iran, for whatever reason, the President would be under enormous pressure to supply Israel with all the sophistcated war material and even particpate. This is nothing new. With Russia (and possible China) supplying Iran with sophisticated air defence systems it could be a long costly war with no clear military solution.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 14, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    de Castro: As long as the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council and Germany do NOT attack each other militarily …. Job Done!!

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 14, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    We all are aware, if we are honest, that the UN is nothing more than a gathering place for idle chatter, where most of the membership are “free loaders”. It serves no useful purpose, has no power, is a blight on the US., and should be scrapped. Both Russia, and China are rogue nations, searching for recognition, and will resort to any action that they feel would gain them such, even if it means supplying Iran with nuclear weapons. They don’t give two hoots about the USA, taking full advantage of an extremely weak president. In a few weeks time, one might find that the whole deck of cards will be reshuffled, and congress will be called upon to “save” mankind. Israel, is by then likely to fire with both barrels, and the allies will be forced to join the effort. Hopefully Iran by then, would have learnt its lesson. Not the kind of news one would like to hear, but that too is reality

  • de castro  On April 14, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    Isnt Russia and China members of the UN.? Why did they “spectate” while George w and Tony “liar” blair invade Iraq. Because Sadist sadam (their lakey) CIA trained
    invaded Kuwait.

    The Russian and Chinese are the “silent” enemies of a free world.
    Cold war reincarnate.😈

    Why ? USA (UN)

    The ways i sees it !😇

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 14, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    Russia and China are indeed “members” of the UN, on paper. Their main mission is to tease and obstruct the big 4; USA., Britain, France, and Germany. The rest of Europe pales in importance. Africa, and the rest of the 3rd, 4th., etc. world, are just about insignificant, except to obstruct on a lesser scale. My take.

  • de castro  On April 15, 2015 at 1:49 am

    Suggestion for solution….struggle to change the political mindset.

    Adopting the “religious” disbeliefs/beliefs. Can your GOD be my GOD.😇

    Old roman politricks !

    Solution both religious and political.

    My dream😴

    My vision😇

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 15, 2015 at 10:09 am

    Just heard that the Iranian president is adamant, that there will be no “Nuck” deal, unless all sanctions disappear. Wow. what a deal. This “deal” is olbama’s wet dream, and nothing more. Like I said, Iran is laughing their pants off. They are working on the “Nucks’ right now. Russia did their thing already; what’s the use. Sink the deal Olbama, and resign.

    • albert  On April 15, 2015 at 12:31 pm

      One thing you are not….an open minded objective critic. You dislike Obama….nothing wrong with that, but your dislike is base on pure emotion. Nothing specific. Its just like some of the red neck brethren I speak with here in the south. At least you know where Guyana is located, maybe. THese guys dont know the countries bordering the US.

      Put your ears to the ground and do some thinking to make your old Guyanese teachers proud. Obama is one person who depends on the advice of US military intelligence ….. who interact with counterparts in Israel. Is it you think these guys are dumb and dont know whats going on.

      Why you think Castro and Madura is trying to get on board with Obama? They know Russia is a sinking ship and Putin is trying to hold on to pass glory with his one commodity economy.

  • de castro  On April 15, 2015 at 11:29 am

    Putin is taking the *p* of Obama…..USA boogey man ” communism ” is returning to bite this time….no barking.!!
    Putin is a pragmatist Obama a pacifist !
    Take your pick ….😴😢😢😇

    • albert  On April 15, 2015 at 12:57 pm

      No my friend. Look behind the face Putin is showing. You know of any country prospering with a one crop economy. The wealthy Russian investors are fleeing to Europe, the currency is diving, reserves are plummeting. If you visit Russia you will see theres is nothing there except a large military to protect its porous borders. Its probably cheaper to visit Russia from the UK. Take avisit and get firsthand experience.
      The US and Obama are unbelieveably cruel with Russia by pulling away Ukraine. Its like starving a sick man.

  • de castro  On April 15, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    My brother
    Personalities in politricks can be misleading.
    Putin has more “power” in Russia than Obama has in USA.
    ONE COUNTRY FREE
    OTHER RULED BY A DICTATOR

    PUTIN is a Stalinist !
    OBAMA is a democrat.

    The subtle difference politically.
    Starving the Russian people into submission is ‘silly’ economics.
    Our world is global and am sure most of the Rich Russians have their major
    investments outside Russia….some even in US multinational corporations.
    Moscow square has a drive in McDonalds.
    Russia is not having a “brain drain” its more a “money migration”….
    If you had a million to invest would you bank it in BOR….or BOA BOE ?
    its that simple.
    Why is China so keen to ” copy” america capitalism.?
    It is tried and tested …..Russia is a one “egg” economy in one basket.
    Who is suffering in Russia from sanctions ! Who is suffering in Cuba from sanctions ! Raul Castro and his cronies….!
    Obama should call these foolish leaders bluff…..remove all sanctions and flood
    them with cheap chinese imports…..or quality US/EU manufactured products.

    Let Russian consumers decide which they prefer…..Putin’s dilemma.😈

    Communism has failed.
    Facism was defeated.
    Nazism also.
    Let us move forward.

    Que sera

    • albert  On April 15, 2015 at 7:11 pm

      Not sure of your point. Who is starving the Russian people? The idea of the capitalist US and The West (which includes UK) is to expand their markets for capitalists goods. That’s the idea of peeling off countries from Russia, the Vietnam war etc.That was the philosophy long before Obama.
      Obama cannot remove sanctions. If he could he would have done it. That has to be done by Congress. Make sure you know the facts.

      • de castro  On April 15, 2015 at 7:43 pm

        Exactly
        Obama is not as “powerful” as Putin…..politically anyway.😇

        Point taken that the objective of taking ukaraine etc from russia was to weaken Putin’s power.

        See below my point of how “economic sanctions” hurt the ordinary folks more
        than the “political class”…

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 15, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    Well said Castro. Now let me engage the “ever wise” albert. You say that I dislike Obama, and there is nothing wrong with that, I agree ,and so I must be OK. I even know where Guyana is. You ought to leave the “red necks” of the south alone, unless you want to label me as such. Don’t forget, many red necks and “white ones” as well, help to place obama in the said seat he occupies today. Now they want to replace him with a white neck, in the form of Clint. Can she depend on your vote? Now I could make my Guyanese primary school teachers proud by keeping my mouth shut, and not exposing their racism in class, by referring to me as they cut my ass, with the taunt: ” hey putagee bumba ride the desk”; I was 10 yrs. old. What a bunch of dummies. I must admit things were somewhat different in high school, and I can override any unsavoury comments coming mostly from fellow students; but that’s another story for a different time. Obama does depend on advise from military advisers, and they are not dumb: the dumb ones are Obama and his administration, who keep ignoring them. Yes Russia may be sinking but don’t be too close to Putin as he goes down, because before he does he will try to take as many people with him. The best way to defend is to Attack. O.B.A.M.A please arise from your slumber, the ship is sinking.

  • de castro  On April 15, 2015 at 3:39 pm

    No one knows what will be Obama s legacy…..until he is time served.
    What people will remember him for…..most will remember him for what he did not do …than what he did. That’s why politricks is such a ‘nasty’ game.

    Clinton “oral” office
    George w stupidity
    Tony “liar’ blair
    Thatcher milk snatcher
    and so on…….
    Political achievements are forgotten very quickly. Negativity sucks !

    Glad none of my family or friends entered the political arena.

    Que sera

  • compton de castro  On April 15, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    Error error
    See above….my last comment….

    Sanctions do not hurt the people it is designed to hurt….
    Cite Cuba Iran Russia…..sanctions are like sieges of castles in past…
    designed to starve inhabitants into submission….that is the jist of my comments

    Leaders escape before they “fall”….. A great movie ALAMO comes to mind.

    Economic sanctions do more harm than good.
    Best abolished in a global arena..

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 16, 2015 at 8:55 am

    Hey,

    NORAD couldn’t even stop a “flying armchair”, from landing on the presidential lawn, with a Santa Clause on board, carrying a box of Christmas cards( approx. 400 of them) for congress delivery, yesterday. Is this how America is protected? How are they going to protect against Putin’s Nukes. This administration’s (best before date} has long past; let’s get a real government in there soon, before we all disappear. REPUBLICAN.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 16, 2015 at 8:58 am

    Could I just add after the word REPUBLICAN, the words LINCOLN’S PARTY. chow.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 16, 2015 at 10:20 am

    Doug Casey Research:
    Last month Iran and the US and its negotiating partners reached an understanding that might lead to an agreement about Iran’s nuclear program.

    A lifting of some of the economic sanctions on Iran would be part of any final deal, and that would open up the Iranian economy—by far the largest economy currently excluded from the international financial system—to foreign investment.

    The US and Iran have been bitter adversaries since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Many Westerners would cringe at the thought of profiting from the opening of Iran. But its tremendous economic potential is undeniable.

    Iran has the world’s third-largest proven oil reserves (10% of the world total) and the second-largest proven natural gas reserves (17% of the world total). But the Iranian economy isn’t just natural resources: the assortment of companies that trade on the Tehran Stock Exchange is surprisingly dynamic and diversified.
    I recently discussed investing in Iran with the legendary investor Jim Rogers.

    Here is what he had to say:
    “I bought Iranian shares in 1993, and over the next few years it went up something like 47 times, so it was an astonishing success ….

    Yes, I know that there’s an interesting market there. I know there’s a vibrant society there. I know huge numbers of Iranians who are under 30, and they want to live a different life. It is changing slowly, but it’s in the process. ….

    I bought Iranian shares in 1993, and over the next few years it went up something like 47 times, so it was an astonishing success ….

    Part of it, of course, is because the West has characterized them as demons and evil, which makes it harder. I was never very keen on things like that. Throughout history and in my own experience, engagement is usually a better way to change things than ignoring people and forcing them to close in and get bitter about the outside world.

    So I don’t particularly approve of our approach or anybody’s approach to Iran. I certainly don’t approve of old man Khamenei’s approach to Iran either. There were mistakes made in the early days on both sides. But that’s all changing now. I see great opportunities in Iran. If they don’t open to the West, they’re going to open to Asia and to Russia.

    There are fabulous opportunities in Iran, with over 70 million people, vast assets, lots of entrepreneur-type people, smart people, and educated people. Iran is Persia. Persia was one of the great nations of world history for many centuries.
    So it’s not as though they were a bunch of backward people sitting over there who can’t read or find other people on the map. Persia has enormous potential, and they will develop it again.” – Jim Rogers

    Thanks to President Barack Obama, the most under-rated President in USA history, for starting a conversation with Iran. The future of the world is bright. President Obama is a Democrat.

  • albert  On April 16, 2015 at 10:33 am

    The above may be the fear about Iran. Its economjc potential will cause it to become a giant in the region and make israel of lesser importance in the region. Dont underestimate the power of western profit motive and greed.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 16, 2015 at 11:14 am

    Finally, someone gets it. Do not underestimate Israel – they are in there already being buddy-buddy with Iran. They don’t tek lef’ and they will benefit from the prosperity and peace in the region – Start a conversation!!

    • albert  On April 16, 2015 at 12:04 pm

      Israel buddy-buddy with Iran? Guess I am not that much of a visionary too see that one.
      What I imagine is US capitalist seeing a 70 millon market opportunity for whatever they produce. If that market open up to the west,and the profits start rolling, Israel becomes secondary…or lower down.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 16, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    Albert: Try looking past Netanyahu – The Berlin Wall came down; Mandela was released from prison and became President of South Africa … we did not see that either. Netanyahu is an embarrassment – Time is the mother of truth!!

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 16, 2015 at 1:17 pm

    Netanyahu could eventually be the trump card for this planet. All he has to do is shed himself of Obama’s government, and do his thing. Ever heard of the calypso “stinging bees”.; here are some words to it; Regan is a bee, Thatcher is a bee, Gary is a bee, stinging everybody, Putin is a bee, Burnham is a bee, Jagan is bee, stinging everybody; Billy is a bee, Hili. is bee, Obama is a bumble bee (screwing everybody).

    • albert  On April 16, 2015 at 1:51 pm

      “Netanyahu could be the trump card to this planet” All I could say is that you have great imagination. Perhap I have work with Jewish people too long and now see life in terms of the dollar bill. I think Iran holds the key: we cannot really stop them from building the nuke, but they know they will pay a price if they attempt to do it. They will suffer from the bombing. The calculation is whether to pay that price or have the option the west provide. If they go the way of the west in the long run they could drown Israel through economic success.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 16, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    albert,

    In this way they could exterminate the jews A SECOND TIME, but this time by drowning, not by lead, or fire, but by silver, and gold. I don’t think that Iran’s advisers would be very wise. Pay me now or pay me later; Netanyahu’s “war cry”

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 16, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    Ouch… No one can look past Obama, he is too big an obstacle, apart from other things.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 18, 2015 at 9:21 am

    Guys.

    This conversation has trickled; are you so wet, that you find the need to change your “Depends”?

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 19, 2015 at 8:27 pm

    Heard today on CTV, that the Iranian authorities will not allow any international Inspectors, to inspect their military facilities; they would scrap the deal if this was imposed. These guys are just making the West look completely foolish.

  • Thinker  On April 20, 2015 at 5:23 am

    Did you also hear that Obama will allow Congress to veto the deal if necessary?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/us/senators-reach-deal-on-iran-nuclear-talks.html?_r=0
    Talks recommence today. Are you blaming him for trying? You may still get the war you want.

  • de castro  On April 20, 2015 at 6:54 am

    Disagreements do not have to end in war….
    The military will want war !
    The religious want peace,
    The political must decide…..or not.
    War in self defence is just but stil insane.
    War by invasion is “aggressive” threatening peace.
    UN responsibility as peacekeepers.
    Are they up to their task/mandate.??

    We will soon discover if that is so.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 20, 2015 at 9:16 am

    Most people would favour peace in the world, and I am no exception. People go to war for a variety of reasons, two of which are; they feel their own existence is threatened, or they want to conquer territory(Putin). I must say that Obama is slowly getting the message that congress has the final say in the matter of a deal with Iran .Now, when the “big” boys are at play, the UN go away; the rest of the membership are basically non entities. I totally agree, that war is insane, and that a “just” peace is the better route. This deal as it exists, and agreed to by both sides, is a no brainer. Iran sees it as time share for their own immediate “Nuck” developmental plans, and Obama refuses to read the tea leaves.

    • albert  On April 20, 2015 at 12:18 pm

      -Did Putin seek to conquer territory or prevent the continuity of the US/West taking territory adjacent to Russia
      -Did Congress not in effect give Obama the go ahead in that 34 senate votes are required to sustain his veto, if congress dissaproved the final agreement.
      – War would only postpone Iran ability to complete the building of a nuke……..according to US military. So what’s your proposed alternative to the present agreement.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 20, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    Did putin seek to…….

    What agreement are we talking about. They are having a birthday party. I do not have to propose an alternative to the “agreement”, it is being played out right now in the presence of a number of US warships in the sea off the coast of Yemen, aimed at intercepting weapons carrying Iranian convoys, to
    Yemen. This agreement will more than likely be shelved, and Iran put under severe sanctions again.

    • albert  On April 20, 2015 at 8:43 pm

      “This agreement will more than likely be shelved”
      Very probable for many different reasons. One been that Neyanyahu could throw in a monkey wrench.

      “and Iran put under severe sanctions again”
      This is questionable. The coalition will not stay together. Russia is already doing its own thing and the others are not likely to follow the US. India and others need cheap Iranian oil. Iran military would have enough money to build the bomb even while its people starve.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 21, 2015 at 9:19 am

    It appears as though the people I read have a different perspective on the same news items. What I gather is that a successful conclusion of the Iran Nuclear Agreement is in the interest of both parties – Iran and UN Security Council [P5 plus Germany].

    Essentially, it is reported that the parties have achieved a position where one side could go back to its population and tell it’s story and the other side could go back to its population and tell another story.

    It does not mean that it is a bad deal or that there is any likelihood that it will be shelved. It means that the parties have crafted public announcements on both sides that are palatable to their own people.

    The apparent repositioning of the USA battle group is routine and not intended as a threat to Iran or their military. The negotiators will be back at the table and focusing on codifying the framework agreement. That’s it.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 21, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    Well the “Speaker” of the “House Of The Common People”, has just put in his “two cents” worth. From what he stated, one gets the impression that agreement was reached, that either side can extrapolate whatever it wants from the “deal”, and present it to their respective people, in digestive form. Does this mean that they were given the mandate to lie to their respective people. Then wherein lies the validity of a deal? On the military concerns, one might cloud it as simple routine repositioning. Well I just heard that the US military is prepared to “INTERCEPT” between 7-9 Iranian ships in convoy. We’ll see how that plays out.

  • albert  On April 21, 2015 at 2:13 pm

    The repositioning of the US battle ship with those of Egypt and Saudi Arabia has to do with another conflict in Yemen. The idea is to block a convoy of Iranian war ships from supplying arms to its rebel faction in Yemen….and to show the Iranians that the US supports the Saudi’s in the conflict.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 21, 2015 at 10:01 pm

    Albert: You are one hundred percent WRONG – Iran is not supplying arms to Yemen. Iran did submit a 4-point peace plan on Yemen, which was supported by Russia. Iran is NOT interested in getting involved militarily in Yemen.

    • albert  On April 22, 2015 at 12:11 am

      Albert: You are one hundred percent WRONG

      So my source of information: which is the President himself been interviewed on TV and his press secretary answering questions by reporters is wrong and yours from, I dont know where, is correct.

  • de castro  On April 22, 2015 at 3:01 am

    Gentlemen

    Glad I dont follow “daily rabble” media.
    BBC CNN etc are propagandist machines for mass consumption….as most main stream media is.
    If you want direction don’t ask a politician…..ask a policeman/postman.

    What is unfolding in the Arab world is “politricks” instigated by western interferance/influences. East west detente reincarnate.

    Don’t usually pray but do wish for a “less volatile” more “peaceful” planet.
    Love thy neighbour as thyself !😇
    But won’t do a Jesus….kick my ass and I kick yours….no here is the other cheek
    more a Ghandi or Mandela.

    My thoughts on east/west saber rattling.

    Ways I see it 😇

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 22, 2015 at 3:21 am

    Albert: Please go back up this thread and look at what I wrote … read it again.

    You are misunderstanding what you see unfolding in the media and what is actually happening – it is called “diplomacy” – and it is misunderstood by the public. In the instant case “gun boat diplomacy” comes to mind, but that label would not be helpful to you, because I read experienced former career diplomat’s take on what is going on … just below what I wrote up there – the only intelligent thing Malcolm wrote was “We’ll see how that plays out.”

    There is absolutely no need for the USA to engage Iran militarily – NONE!!

    President Obama has started the conversation and it is a work in-progress.

    We’ll see how that plays out!!

  • de castro  On April 22, 2015 at 7:05 am

    Clyde
    There is no need for USA to engage Iran militarily….
    Their lap dog Netanyahu will…Q will USA support him ?😈

    Suspect …publicly NO privately YES.
    MONEY TALKS.. THE US LANGUAGE OF LOVE….WAR !
    Destroy then win contracts to rebuild……not to mention behind the scenes
    arms deals. Sad state of affairs. Cowboy mentality.😇

    Am more interested on what is being done to “save” the boat people !
    One British nationalistic politician is calling on Cameron to send royal navy
    fleet to rescue these poor people granting some political asylum in UK.
    Shipping most back to where they come from.

    Are we not all “economic migrants” to our safe havens….
    A fact we must never forget…..conflicts which we may have influenced/started
    in these peoples world. Sometime I feel our world lacks compassion.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 22, 2015 at 10:55 am

    “The commander in chief, has once again spoken.” Let me remind him that from time to time one does experience periods of lucidity, and say something intelligent. The conversation that Obama started, is a work in regress. Iran is playing his games to a “tee”. The ships are coming, but will be intercepted, should they advance into the waters of the Yemen. “Bang”……….The US may have to rebuild some of their ships, after the bang bang bang…….. Saudi Arabia, has resumed the bombing, after a brief respite; I suppose that was the kind of “diplomacy” referred to. Take heart Albert, don’t take the other gentleman to heart. I think you are right this time.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 22, 2015 at 10:56 am

    de Castro: “lap dog” covers it – It is NOT going to happen. I read this one some where, but – I must admit – it may be less than credible: Last year, Netanyahu ordered the military to draw up plans to attack Iran. The military commanders dare not tell the commander-in-chief “Go to hell.” So they did the next best thing, they told the USA – and your main man in Israel was told, in so many words, it is NOT going to happen.

    But, assuming you are right – Israel does plan on attacking – my fingers are already trembling on this keyboard at the thought of such nonsense …

    Assuming that you are right – here is something to consider: Iran is not Gaza! And Israel would think long and hard about starting a war with Hezbollah – Hezbollah is Iran’s B-Team. But, then again, Israel at war with Iran is nonsense!

    President Obama, the most under-rated President in USA history – started the conversation!!

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 22, 2015 at 11:03 am

    Kampton

    I agree with the gist of your imput, but let me just posit, that some could be deemed” economic migrants” while others are forced out of fear for their lives, and those of their children and families. an example is the state of affairs in Guyana, where the political fuse is ready to blow. We’ll see how that plays out.

  • albert  On April 22, 2015 at 5:33 pm

    “Guyana, where the political fuse is ready to blow”
    You mean it could get worst? But you should not worry uch, most of the Portuguese (and Chinese) who left went with there money. Those who remain (like John Fernandes sons, if they still alive, etc) still have their money. Better to light a candle now than to curse the darkness.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 22, 2015 at 6:39 pm

    Correction….”the political fuse is ready to blow”.

    Most of the Portuguese that I knew were pushed out, with a few shillings in their possession, and whatever was left in their names was confiscated by the then government. As far as the worsening situation is concerned, there doesn’t appear that enough candlelight could be provided, to offset the curse of the darkness. The Portuguese had all right to remain in the country. No one race in that land has any greater right than the other; don’t overlook the fact that many Blacks and Indians left as well, with their money, and they should not be worried either. Don’t you think?

    • Thinker  On April 23, 2015 at 5:40 am

      Malcolm! Againj, statements like this seem to distort history somewhat. Let the Portuguese you knew come on board and tell their stories. At the time of the migrations to Canada and the US, Guyana was no longer using shillings in the first place. The major fear was the imminent independence of British Guiana under communist (Jaganite) rule, especially after all saw what had happened in Cuba after 1959. The killing of the Abrahams caused alarm. It was almost like a stampede among Portuguese and Chinese Catholics as my childhood friends largely said goodbye. And it was not always the relatively wealthy. Properties .were probably sold off at below market value. Let us hear of specific properties confiscated by whatever government you are referring to in your somewhat revisionist account. The Burnham regime certainly hastened the process as all and sundry decided to flee. It was all well documented by the Catholic Standard as people bought the newpaper eager to see who had left. It was just like the fascination Guyanese still have with listening to the death announcements around 9 p.m.. To the ignorant, one would think there was some sort of Idi Amin-like expulsion of the Portuguese. That simply wasn’t the case.
      Speak, Memory, Speak!

      • de castro  On April 23, 2015 at 6:50 am

        Thinker
        U r absolutely spot on….
        In conflicts/political uncertainty the first to “exit” are the Rich or better off.
        Then follows the “peasantry”….. uneducated poorer classes.
        Don’t forget Forbes Linden Samson Burnham received his ” indoctrination”
        in UK eliteist institutions….at the time preaching their gospel of “communism”
        / “anti capitalism”……
        Myself of putagee extraction…..of peasantry/business background.
        Was 17 ambitious determined to fly a plane. Travelled to UK to follow a military career in RAF.
        ONE WAY TICKET WITH THOUSANDS OF WEST INDIAN BROTHES/SISTERS
        We were informed an ” anti immigration” bill was to be sought in UK parliament to curtail the influx of mass migration into UK.
        UK was very much a “racists” politicaly motivated country in the early 60 “s.
        Still is but very much ” diluted”…..more a class divide than a colour divide.

        Will write a book on the subject time permitting as I now travel the planet
        mostly south/westward….USA excluded until their guns laws are updated.
        If ever !😈
        Hilary s challenge.!😴

        Religion is one of the many evils of the planet we must live with….
        Economics can change our planet in the future.
        Politics will decide “right” from “wrong”….
        Justice will be served better when laws are updated.

        My spin
        Sir kamtan lord of cherin by appointment HRH QE2 UKPLC.
        PS there is lobbying in UK that next heir/successor to the throne of the kingdom be elected not ” anointed”…..let the people decide !😇

  • de castro  On April 22, 2015 at 8:04 pm

    The most rightful residents of Guyana are the aboriginal rain Forrest tribes
    Today they share their forrests with other tribes….whites blacks brown olive
    Etc even aliens…they respect the natural world and care for it….it is their heart/lungs/limbs life.
    These are the true people of Guyana. All others that followed are but “economic migrants” most permanent residents few temporary….re-migrating.

    Guyana will go through a revolution of change in the next decade or two
    Hopefully for the better !
    Must remain optimistic for the future.

  • Thinker  On April 23, 2015 at 7:35 am

    Kamptan, Are you imp[lying that while he was studying in the UK, Burnham was anti-communist?????

    • de castro  On April 23, 2015 at 10:55 am

      No the opposite….he may have been thinking “leftie'” socio/commie politically.
      already……so was Cheddi but in USA.
      also elitism was part and parcel of “indoctrination” in British universities at the time…..fashionable. Most professors were already Darwinian Karl Marks followers.
      The educated class influenced/ruled the political class.

      Hey it was only 15 years after WW2…..USA the new empire.

      Am going to write that book yet…..before my exit.

      Kamtan

  • Thinker  On April 23, 2015 at 7:38 am

    Kamptan, instead of immediately trying to write a book, a short article would be enough. I can help vet it.

    • de castro  On April 23, 2015 at 10:57 am

      Thanks will certainly like to

  • albert  On April 23, 2015 at 10:10 am

    Malcolm: “Most of the Portuguese that I knew were pushed out, with a few shillings in their possession, and whatever was left in their names was confiscated by the then government”

    Some days ago you reminded us of the Portuguese contribution to Guyana. Never thought of them in the macro sense. It was an interesting bit of information. They could be found in all the social strata of Guyana and associated with the other races. I knew many of them. To say they were driven out of Guyana is stretching it. My take is that most went voluntarily because of the socialist/communist politics rhetoric by politicians, or to better themselves like most of us. There were still many (or their business) in Guyana in the 80’s. JP Santos, Correia Wines, D’Aguiar, John Fernandes wharf and so on. How come they stayed and their business were not confiscated.

  • de castro  On April 23, 2015 at 11:18 am

    Simple
    Daguiar cleverly made BANKS DIH a shareholding company.
    Blocked Burnham or chedi from “nationalising” ….
    Some of cheddi and burnham followers became major shareholders.

    Today its called “privatiseation” …..
    Tories in UK privatise…..private ownership
    Labour nationalise….public ownership

    Two different political ideologies.
    Today Lloyd’s bank is owned by taxpayers
    Tomorrow it will be owned by private investors/institutions.

    Will have to start charging for all this eco/pol/ideological information/explanation.
    Seriously
    Information is power ….how we abuse it my concern…..but it should be free.

    Education should be free to taxpayers in UK subsidised by external students fees…..that is why I support the labour/leftie’ party.
    Also like the idea of apprenticeships…..on the job training.
    Give people the skills for life….Germans are way ahead of UK in this area
    UK is on catch up in this respect.

    Hey must get on with other matters

    Can go on and on but will get off soap box now

    • albert  On April 23, 2015 at 11:58 am

      “Daguiar cleverly made BANKS DIH a shareholding company.
      Blocked Burnham or chedi from “nationalising””

      I heard that before. Dont see how how that would have blocked an intended nationalisation. Was the sugar estate and the bauxite companies not private corporations with shareholders all over.
      D’Aguiar was a smart businessman but I dont know how it seem the Bajans stole his DIH in Barbados and gain the rights to export banks beer abroad. Was he asleep at the wheel.

  • de castro  On April 23, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    Who owned sugar estates ? Bookers British shareholders
    Who owned bauxite company ? Canadian shareholders
    Who owned Banks DIH ? Daguiar s family.
    Who owned Banks DIH Barbados ? Daguiars family.

    Suspect Bajans did not buy out nationalise Banks DIH until much later.

    • albert  On April 23, 2015 at 12:53 pm

      So what could have stopped Govt legally from nationalising Banks DIH in Guyana if family owned or they decided to sell some shares to private investors?…………..I suspect either govt did not want to., or Daguiar made a deal………..
      When Banks DIH Barbados was almost burnt to the ground Burnham allowed Daguiar to rebuild using Guyana resources.

  • de castro  On April 23, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    Burnham would have nationalised it later….he was more interested in the “external” owners first…..
    Doubt if there was any deal…..
    DAGUIAR was a capitalist in Burnhams eyes..
    Daguiar did not trust Burnham by his association with Cheddi (known to CIA
    as a “Russian” markist sympathiser) ….in order to be accepted by USA Burnham had to disassociate himself with commie cheddi and join Daguiar the capitalist.

    Forbes linden Samson Burnham was no fool….hey Guyana scholar and QC admitted to the uk as barrister of law….later queens council…..

    If anything Burnham became an “eliteist” during his UK s indoctrination/influences. Maybe even a superiority complex !

    Check out his ” lifestyle” in Victoria village ….lord of Victoria …..
    who he respected as the queen who freed the slaves.
    He never removed her statue outside the law courts in GT. Why ?
    He respected at first and later despised the English aristocracy.
    He may have had divided loyalities…confused.
    Guyana is a republic yet member of commonwealth of nations. Why ?

    People my age will take many memories with us on exit.
    History will repeat itself.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 23, 2015 at 9:04 pm

    Folks. There is so much “meat” in the last few enteries to chew on, that I do not know just where to begin. Let me start by referring to de castro’s. My take is that when Banks Breweries DIH took route in Barbados, it did so by providing Barbadians the opportunity to buy shares in the company, which many of them did, together with many Guyanese, in and out of Barbados. I know these trudes to be true; at the time I lived about 150 yds. from the factory in Barbados, and got drunk for the first time in my life on Banks beer, in Barbados. Let me remind Albert that shillings were still being used in the late 50s and early sixties, if people chose to part with them, as the Guyana currencies were practically useless outside of the country, and is still useless today. The Portuguese who left before D’Aguiar did, were lucky to be able to still cash in their Guyana dollars, for real money. After D’Aguiar’s departure Burnham saw it fit to limit the amount one could get from the bank in foreign currency. Many Portuguese had saved their shillings, because of the silver content, and managed to bring out real money through the “back door”. Confiscation of property in Guyana was subtle business. One could never have gotten the true value of one’s properties at that particular time, so if one had felt the need to leave, it was incumbent for one to give the property away on sale. Let me remind you, that in the tumult of the time, many who remained, received many “gifts” of properties, including politicians and their cronies; it was a very subtle way of property confiscation by Burnham; bring in currency control and you have it made. People have asked, “How come he got so rich”. People were willing to accept anything for their properties, as they were bent on leaving. My wife’s grandfather was one of these unfortunate people.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 23, 2015 at 9:06 pm

    Root, no route

  • de castro  On April 24, 2015 at 2:09 am

    Between 1962-1968 was doing military service with RAF all over far/middle east
    so lost touch with my family and friends I left behind in early days of FLSB
    political rule. On my return in 1969 it was a different country to the one I had
    left behind. Mainly because I was now married and about to start a family.
    Fortunately was offered a job and my corporate career began.
    Worked in Essequibo Bartica Mackenzie (linden) New Amsterdam and finally
    GEORGETOWN. Three of my 4 children were born in GT first in UK.
    Left Guyana second time in 1975 and decided to remain in UK to
    bring up my 4 children. No regrets as my 4 have all exceeded my
    expectations married and have families of their own.
    Now grandfather (retired at 60 to live on farm bought in andalucia south Spain)
    of six beautiful grandchildren. At 71 life could not have been kinder/better as I shuttle between Spain and UK and the south west world. Mainly carribean
    Latin America……guns and drugs steers me away from mainland USA.
    My adopted language is now Spanish….que Sera Sera.
    My trips to Guyana are usually yearly with visits to Brazil Peru Venezuela
    and mainly the Amazonian areas borders Peru Equador Columbia and Brazil/Guyana borders.
    Hopefully I can spend the next decade travelling with homes in UK and Spain.
    Fortunately I have good friends/family in some of the places I visit in my
    travels who “steer” me in the right direction….to be streetwise.
    Avoid staying in cities or town as country folks are a lot friendlier to
    travellers with “stories to tell” of their travels.

    Will certainly write a book of my life before my exit.

    Its been a wonderful and exciting journey….still is.

    Sir kamtan lord of cherin by appointment HRH QE2 UKPLC

    • Thinker  On April 24, 2015 at 7:38 am

      I would guess that by the eary 70’s almost all the Portuguese had left but we must remember that the start was in the early 60’s.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 24, 2015 at 5:48 pm

    Thinker: I will amend the time period of the exodus to mid-1950’s – as a young man I was constantly going to the Base – the old road with bush hanging over it. A lot of Portuguese relatives, my Grandmother, my aunts, uncles, cousins, included – friends and neighbours, were departing for Aruba, UK, Canada, USA and other ports of call … not a lot of non-whites came to Canada, but I bumped into – now deceased – athletes from B.G. who came up to the 1954 British Empire Games in Vancouver and stayed. The start of the exodus was around 1955 …

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 24, 2015 at 7:59 pm

    Hey guys,

    Noticed that Iran has backed off on the high seas ,and heading for home. Too much pressure I presume. Scrap the deal, bring on the sanctions, and these “worms” will go back into their holes, and continue to dig. They can dig all they want, but can they dig themselves out. We’ll wait and see.

  • de castro  On April 24, 2015 at 8:03 pm

    Lunch in my favourite maderia cafe/restaurant in Crawley town near Gatwick airport
    where oil was recently discovered in quantum.
    Population 150.000 souls.😇

    10 years ago retired to Spain leaving behind friends/family in a town that was
    predominantly white….overflow new town for overcrowded Londoners in 50s
    Today immigrants from every corner of the globe now live here…..as unemployment rate is very low by UK standards…1.2%…..
    Londoners were offered job and subsidised housing by government to
    encourage the move from overcrowded city.
    Many new towns were built from scratch to act as overflow of the city
    of London booming population.
    Today over 12 million….16/18 million in summer from overseas visitors.

    In cafe was 3 Canadians 1 american few Portuguese few English
    and many other nationals dining there….new residents of Crawley.
    It is now a very cosmopolitan town……in a decade. Amazing transformation.
    Thanks to an international airport nearby.
    Yes even met three trinidadians who fly with CAL dining there.

    The lesson my friends is simple
    Our world is no longer local ..it is global. People are much more mobile today
    than yesteryears….economic migration is changing our world. Hopefully
    for a more prosperous/peaceful one.

    Ways I see it….Guyana no exception…..its brain drain will continue.😇

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 25, 2015 at 1:12 am

    Associated Press: Diplomats say the first round of Iran nuclear talks aimed at turning a tentative agreement into a final deal has been positive and indicates an agreement can be reached by the June 30 deadline.

    The United States and five other powers want Tehran to agree to long-term curbs on programs that can make nuclear arms. Iran denies wanting such weapons but is seeking relief from sanctions imposed earlier over its refusal to reduce its atomic activities.

    Two western diplomats familiar with the talks said the three-day round ending Friday, 24 Apr., focused mostly on the pace of lifting sanctions. They demanded anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the negotiations.

    They said the parties will meet again on the sidelines of a UN conference in New York that starts next week.

  • de castro  On April 25, 2015 at 2:42 am

    Comrade Duncan
    Thanks update on “nuclear negotiations” …..
    That’s why I do not follow/quote main stream media.
    Negotiating with arabs is “Russian roulette”…. Betrayal the likely norm.😈

    In matters military even more dangerous trusting the enemy (Snowden)

    If Iran wants a nuclear ” deterrent” they will get one.

    Not wishing to repeat my position on nuclear issue ….
    Does UN have the “respect” as peace keepers to demand that whoever uses
    nuke first will be “removed”…..”_obliterated” from the planet. Their Armageddon.

    Now that oil is being discovered everywhere else on the planet….
    outside middle east…..the black gold will loose its lustre…..
    Solar or Armageddon our choice.😇

    One suggestion was….
    Meteorite hitting our planet out of sun orbit and we go crashing into sun.
    How far fetched the human mind wonders…..If ?

    Que sera
    If visiting my brothers/sisters in amazonia when some lunatic presses the Armageddon button willfully/accidentally who knows “I will survive”

    Sir Tarzan lord of the “human jungle”

    • Thinker  On April 25, 2015 at 8:05 am

      First of all generalisations about nationalities are out of place. Secondly Iranians are not Arabs.

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 25, 2015 at 4:38 am

    The Secret Life of Elliot Rodger:

    • de castro  On April 25, 2015 at 5:12 am

      Sorry my friend….your you tube attachment….
      Garbled picture
      Sound on/off….try again.
      Check it out….

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 25, 2015 at 9:21 am

    de Castro: It is about guns and ammunition; easy access to guns and ammo; and another sick soul who went on a shooting rampage – killing innocent people in the USA. While we are discussing what is going on in Persia and the Middle East, we have issues in our own backyard.

    • de castro  On April 25, 2015 at 10:47 am

      OK characteristics culture thinking “generally”….same thing !
      What are arabs then……? Middleast easterners.

      What nationality are iranians……? Ottomans armenians ?

      Do you believe them…..I do not !
      Not unlike the political class…..they speak with forked tounges…..
      Sometimes we have to trust people…in order to move forward
      but ‘betrayal” is a human curse that makes us sceptical to cynical.
      Sorry I trust most until they betray that trust……but on this particular subject
      trust neither east or west with their hidden agendas….

      Remain a sceptic !

      PS there are those driven by nationalistic ambitions.
      There are those who are motivated by nationalism
      There are those who remain loyal whose integrity remains intact.
      But they are very few we can trust. Its my nature. Sorry.

  • de castro  On April 25, 2015 at 11:00 am

    Until american gun laws are updated/revised/changed I will not travel to any of the 52 states…..Puerto Rico or Hawaii.,.
    In UK i can walk the streets in my town Crawley night or day safely without
    fear ……that’s what matters most to me at my tender age of 71.

    How many can make that statement in all honesty.
    UK is treasure island !

    Unarmed policemen are respected as uninformed officers who risk their lives to protect the public…..they do a marvelous job…..only the criminal elements have to fear them.

    One of the safest cities on the planet…..London.

    • albert  On April 25, 2015 at 11:15 am

      “One of the safest cities on the planet…..London”
      Is this a different London. How come people have to chain their car wheels. You are not including the terrorists activities as crime and those areas with the regular riots.
      Up to the 80’s Barbados was one of the developing countries with the lowest crime rates. You could walk the entire Island without fear. Things change when our Guyanese brethren start visiting.

      .

      • de castro  On April 25, 2015 at 11:45 am

        Brother I lived in London 1980s
        It was as safe then as it is now.

        Hey 12m folks of different cultures one would expect higher crime rates.
        Most areas are safeand there are exceptions where “crime” has increased but the metro police are increasing numbers and tactics.its an ongoing
        battle.
        Bajans are still “passive” in their style.
        Jamaicans lot more aggressive.
        Trinidadiansmore cocky now with oil wealth.
        Cubans disciplined people for fear of retributions.
        DR american other state like puerto rico.
        Haiti too much vodoo and poverty.
        Guyana jewel in the crown of carribean.

        A distinct bias here…..sorry other small islands for not mentioning.

        Que sera

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 25, 2015 at 11:01 am

    Somebody said that God never trusted the Englishman in the dark, that is why the sun never set on the British Empire. You trust them and Europeans more than any others … that is part of the “colonial mentality” – you are expected to think that way. It is as far as I want to go with this part of the discourse. STOP

  • Clyde Duncan  On April 25, 2015 at 11:41 am

    Albert – Albert – Albert, C’mon!! Did you read the scolding de Castro got from Thinker, above??

    On another note – same vain – I could not help sharing:
    Around 200 years ago, Europeans arrived at Australia in boats from the north. More accurately, European convicts were sent, with a few deranged people in charge. They tried to plant their crops in autumn [failing to take account of the reversal of the seasons], ate all their food, and a lot of them died. About then the sheep arrived, and have been treasured ever since.

    It is interesting to note here that the Europeans always considered themselves vastly superior to any other race they encounter, since they can lie, cheat, steal and litigate [marks of a civilized culture they say], whereas all the Aboriginals can do is happily survive being left in the middle of a vast red-hot desert, equipped with a stick. Eventually, the new lot of people stopped being Europeans on ‘extended holiday’ and became Australians.

  • de castro  On April 25, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Ha ha….how long ago since you left euroland.?
    European history is all about wars and conquest.
    Empire building with wealth “stolen” from their colonies…..
    Dutch French German British Spanish to name a few.
    Do you not live in a “French” independant colony Ottawa now ?
    Why ? Today we have American empire soon to be replaced with
    the Asian empire….
    Having lived in UK with travel to most European cities so easily accessable daily
    have seen a lot of changes in the last decade or so.
    The European dream is alive ….a united states of Europe…..language
    a major barrier….maybe they will all start speaking ameringlish.

    We all know that austrailia was used as a penal colony….some of the best convicts now turned “statesmen” reformed ?
    Was not Canada a British/French colony.
    Did not the Yankees invade Toronto only to be kicked out by the Canadian mounties….history is full of these issues of conquest/rule….
    Let’s try not to get too bogged down in the past…..try to focus on the present and be positive about the future.
    We cannot turn back time.

    Leave history to the historians.

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 25, 2015 at 10:35 pm

    So Europeans lie, cheat, steal, and litigate, among other things, more so than any other ethnicity. Why the heck did people like you, come to a country, whose forefathers were Europeans. Did you want to be as smart as they are, and learn to lie, cheat, steal, and litigate also. The very “qualities” and characteristics you attribute to the Europeans, flourish in the country that you fled; yes, cheating, stealing, litigating, killing, are all part and parcel of daily life in that place; it is called civilization. The convicts, and deranged people who were put out to sea for Australia, had the “smarts” to realize that Australia was not in Europe.

    • compton de castro  On April 26, 2015 at 3:43 am

      Malcolm
      Will try to answer your questions with all the innuendos….

      At 17 and just finishing my secondary “brainwashing” my dreams of adventure
      took me to UK as I wished to fly a plane.
      Battle of Britain freshly imbedded in my physce….was a war baby whose umbilical cord was cut at birth.

      Yes I already knew how to lie, cheat,steal and also litigate at 17.
      Grew up in BG as it was then known.. Was born in a British colony
      as the Empire was “contracting’ ….with ” independence” to the likes of
      India et al ….

      Not wishing to “write the book” not published as yet can be reached @
      doncomdecastro@gmail.com

      Where I can answers any further questions privately.
      There is no intent to mislead or distort history with fiction just
      the expression of an opinion. At my stage in life it would be unwise to do so.

      We learn more from disagreements than silence.
      The pen is also mightier than the sword.
      With lots of spare time my reading has become a lot more “selective” and I can only write a fraction of what I read…..

      Not wishing to preach the gospel of “truth to power”
      Thanks for your “inqisitve” request ….
      However “familitary” breathes contempt….more so publicly.
      The protocol of public writing.

      Que Sera Sera
      Salud

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 26, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    Kampton,

    Go back a few entries, and you would realize that you might have missdirected your entry; our opinions do not differ by much. Another’s entry precipitated my original response re. lie, cheat, steal, etc. see above. I think you would have made a good addition to an embassy; you missed your calling. Don’t cease to tell it like it is, in public or otherwise. Chow…

  • compton de castro  On April 26, 2015 at 5:58 pm

    Merci gracias thanks

    Certainly will 😇

    Que sera

  • Malcolm Heydorn  On April 26, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    Albert.

    Don’t take that entry you may have received from another individual, about Europeans and Australians, as too authentic. It’s a plagiarized attempt to pass on as one’s own. I wonder on whom the “joke” is now.

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