THE PROMISE OF 1950 – by Ralph Ramkarran

ralphramkarran-THE PROMISE OF 1950

This is an appropriate time, on the occasion of the celebration of Guyana’s 48th Independence Anniversary, only two years before age 50, to begin the assessment of our condition as an independent nation and try to assess the future. Such a discourse is even more urgent at this time when it must be clear to all that Guyana’s post independence political dispensation is poised for a transformation. While politicians contend with the pressures of managing, or even acknowledging, new political developments, leaving frustration in their wake, there is no doubt that change is upon us – change so dramatic that it will transform our political landscape.

The discourse could begin by asking the question: What did a shovelman (Fred Bowman), a Hindu Priest (Pandit Misir), a lawyer of Chinese heritage (Rudy Luck,), a dentist (Cheddi Jagan), a lawyer and a Guyana Scholar (Forbes Burnham), a transport supervisor and trade unionist of mixed but dominant European extraction (Frank Van Sertima), a school teacher (Sydney King), a mixed heritage transport worker (Ivan Cendrecourt), a woman optician (Sheila La Taste), an American-born woman (Janet Jagan) and a trade unionist (Hubert Critchlow), mostly young people, have in common? These are 11 of the 22 General Council members of the PPP of 1950, chosen at random.  

 The General Council laid the foundation for our modern political development by mass mobilization, demanding universal adult suffrage, independence and socialism. As the true founding fathers and mothers of our nation, by merely coming together from such disparate backgrounds, they sent a message that a successful political movement in Guyana and genuine economic and political liberation and progress and prosperity for our nation, could only be achieved by ethnic unity and broad class solidarity. It is the fiery denunciations of oppression, the soaring rhetoric of liberation, uttered with purposeful intent by young professionals and workers of all heritages, men and women clad in red and white, that inspired the poor still living in urban ghettoes and rural logies. It is such inspirational language, never heard before, from people of all colours and classes on a single platform, that resonated so deeply within our psyche, which created the first stirrings of independent nationhood, and which have led us to celebrate tomorrow.

This narrative needs to note the cataclysmic events after 1950. These did not shatter the promise of 1950 but merely postponed its realization. At times it has been hard to hold on to, such as through the violence of the early 1960s and the era of rigged elections and economic decline, led by some who articulated the dream of 1950 with stirring oratory. The promise was not shattered because the tenacity of our people, who survived slavery and indenture, did not then and will not now, allow it to slip from our grasp. The centuries of pain have taught us the lessons of sustaining our dreams of freedom, and of forgiveness, without which we could not have survived. A demonstration of this lesson was the silent embrace between Cheddi Jagan and Forbes Burnham on May 26, 1966.

In the heat of the early 1960s the PPP proposed a coalition government and elicited the help of Eric Williams and Kwame Nkrumah to help to persuade the PNC. In the depressing period of the late 1970s with election postponement and constitutional imposition in the air, the PPP proposed a National Patriotic Front and a government based thereon. During the period of authoritarian rule these initiatives kept alive the promise of 1950. The PNCR in 2002 under its Leader, Desmond Hoyte, accepted the promise as the  way forward for Guyana, restoring this severed promise.

As if fate conspires to postpone the realization of the promise of 1950, the elections of 1992 brought home to the PPP a 52 percent absolute majority and the then rejectionist posture of the PNC, both pre and post election, together with the mood of post election triumphalism within the PPP, ruled out any initiative toward political unity.

Now, once again, Guyana is on the cusp of profound political developments of such an historic nature that they will transform our nation and its role in the region and the world. It now has to be within the contemplation of the top leadership of the PPP, what the broad leadership already knows,  that a minority government cannot be sustained. This, of course will never be admitted, unless the next attempt which is likely to be made sooner rather than later to obtain an absolute majority at new elections, is unsuccessful. If so, there is no doubt that our current leadership possesses the experience, will and statesmanship to guide the difficult process of reconciling enormous differences. Dogged insistence on minority rule a second time around will only temporarily postpone the inevitable.

It is a distinct possibility, if statesmanship prevails, that the beginning of the second half of the first century of Guyana as an independent nation, two years from now, will be marked by the continuation of the effort by Guyana’s political leadership, in conditions of national unity, to realize the promise of the founders of modern politics and of our nation of social justice and economic development. The people of Guyana paid tribute to this idea of 1950 on the passing of Cheddi Jagan in 1997 by their tens of thousands – man, woman and child, rich and poor, of every age, colour and class. A national unity government by Guyana’s 50th Anniversary will truly celebrate Cheddi Jagan’s lifelong commitment to the ideals of 1950.

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  • Rosaliene Bacchus  On May 25, 2014 at 5:00 pm

    I share Ralph Ramkarran’s dream of a “national unity government by Guyana’s 50th Anniversary.” But, for me, it would be a final fulfillment of the dream of our founding fathers and mothers, in the days before the Powers-that-be found a way to divide our united front.

  • de castro  On May 25, 2014 at 5:29 pm

    rose
    USA and UK are guilty of the division guyana is today.
    It would take another 50+ years for political unity which would need a revolution of change ……CHEDDI AND FORBES WERE BOTH CONFUSED BY THEIR POLITICAL CONVICTIONS …one communistic other socialistic….both ideologies
    now defunct…..it is EAST WEST detante all over again…..
    Cold war re-incarnate ….HISTORY HAS A FUNNY WAY OF REPEATING ITSELF.

    GUYANA NEEDS A CULTURAL REVOLUTION which may never happen….
    status quo in politricks.
    The process can only be speeded up by an influx of a few million economic migrants from EAST and WEST.
    sadly the dream ONE PEOPLE ONE NATION ONE DESTINY
    may never come true.

    my spin

    Our leaders must be both be turning in their graves of the opportunity missed in
    the confusion.

    • Thinker  On May 25, 2014 at 6:50 pm

      A little bit more precision is called for, Kamptan.. Communism was supposed to be a more advanced stage of socialism, so in practical terms the difference in ideology was not that great. Burnham just felt that he was in the best position to run the show knowing that the US would never allow any Soviet-oriented government to prosper in its backyard. The socialist-democrat ideal is certainly not defunct. The American Right , at least fears it. Many Europeans embrace it.

      • de castro  On May 28, 2014 at 1:10 am

        my friend
        communism failed because it meant “all for one” not “one for all” in common language….human nature its achilies heel….
        Capitalism has also failed for similar reasons.
        Now we have a situation where Cartels/multinational corporations lobby our
        po;itical elite class to achieve their objective….
        what we have in euroland is a majority of “middle class” in its demographics.
        USA is still in the evolution of “two class” system…RICH V POOR

        Their upper class are now the rich class
        their lower class (working class) are now the mass class….majority.
        aka Obama class.

        in a recession societies with the larger middle class tend to fare better than
        societies with smaller middle classes…..
        John MAJOR AN EX PM in UK was chosen for being a middle class citizen
        and he spoke of a “classless society”…..
        he failed to achieve his objective of a classless society why because
        it is a dream and remains a dream !
        a classful society would have been more possible….but it meant returning
        to VICTORIAN uk…..STEP BACKWARD.
        Hence my middle class thesis…..build a bigger middle class in your society
        and reduce the risk of a “boom and bust” in your economy.

        hope this all makes sense
        kamtan

  • Thinker  On May 25, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    We think of national unity in terms of two major ethnic groups having a share in government. That is no solution in itself, necessarily. Can we mention Yugoslavia, South Sudan, Mauritius, Sri Lanka, which at several points in time had national unity on paper. Jamaica, Barbados, Mexico, etc. have national unity (no hyphenated self-identification by and large) but are not necessarily much better off. Good governance is what the goal must be. Left-wing groups (products of an intellectual elite) especially inspired by the Soviet model, have been no guarantee of ethnic unity.. The breakdown of Yugoslavia so soon after Tito’s demise proves the point. It is not enough to blame the imperialists. The .facade of Western democracy is a better/preferable bet.

    Kamptan speaks of a cultural revolution but fails to indicate how it can come about. Economic migrants? Not from East and West but from East (Venezuela) and/or South.(Brazil). That can very easily be arranged. An acceptable solution? We may not even have the choice. The culture would change very fast in a very revolutionary way!!!!!

  • Thinker  On May 25, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    Should have said “from West and South”.

    • de castro  On May 28, 2014 at 1:36 am

      my friend ….economic migrants (indentured labourers) are similar but of different eras….wasnt guyana at one stage a “multicultural” society….
      until the arrival of europeans who were mainly christians….
      did not the British build several churches attached to schools for the
      doctrination of the next generations of guyanese….wasnt these church
      aided schools abolished by HRH forbes linden sampson burnham.
      unfortunately we cannot turn the clock of guyanas evo;ution back so
      we must move forward by looking for solutions to the po;itical dilema
      guyana and guyanese face today…..
      I share your sentiments but not your belief that venezuela or brazil will
      “invade” guyana….but feel that guyana will benefit from “economic migrants”
      as it is too small to exist and too underpopulated to prosper.
      The demographics needs to change…..
      guyana can easily become a multiracial multicultural society all over again.
      the way forward….

      my spin

  • N.Augustus  On May 27, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    Attracting new immigrants interested in agriculture and manfacturing in enough numbers that together with other not loyal to black or indian parties would force ethnic parties to open up and seek support outside of the group, bringing a more common consensus on an agenda to best serve everyone. The present two racial groups are unlikely to unite for the good of all or welcome other groups. Dog in the manger politics rules in Guyana. Better use of available resources could easily raise most people out of real poverty, but not eith p;resent leaders and theri supporters way of thinking. Too bad.

    • de castro  On May 28, 2014 at 1:50 am

      dog in the manger politics cannot rule forever…..change will come eventually….
      people power will demand it…..and the leaders will have to act on it ….
      or be removed. forever the optimist.
      change will come through revolution…..revolution of thinking …hopefully bloodless

      my dream

      kamtan

  • Thinker  On May 27, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    In what agricultural sector? Or manufacturing what? In what numbers? We would have to find oil first. The only people who could easily come in large numbers are Brazilians.

    • de castro  On May 28, 2014 at 2:03 am

      roraima state in north Brazil is as underpopulated as guyana but its population
      will double in next decade or two….with road rail river and air links planned
      this can happen in less than a decade…..the tarmac road from Manaus to
      Boa Vista is under construction already and one planned to link capital
      Brazillia with Manaus……it wont be long before people follow these….
      there are already thousands of brazilians in guyana already….economic migrants.

      lets see how this one develops….LULA initiated the reciprocal arrangement and
      WILMA his successor will certainly continue this policy.

      we shall see
      optimnisticly
      kamtan

  • de castro  On May 28, 2014 at 12:33 am

    brazilians are the obvious “first choice” indeed…..
    guyana already has a reciprocal arrangement with BRAZIL similar to the
    European union….free movement of people goods and services….
    Not unlike the Euro union language and culture a major obsticle in speeding
    up that process…..USA has prospered by having one language one currency
    one dream….Obama s dream today. Euroland s dream of peace and prosperity
    remains a dream.!!!

    Politically we are seeing India and Pakistan united …maybe also China and Russia in the future …OUR world is changing faster than we could ever have
    imagined hopefully for a more united one.
    I support economic migration en mass but “monitoring” this process is essential
    if it is to benefit all parties concerned.
    Why accept thousands of plumbers or tradesmen if you already have thousands
    “unemployed” in your own country……Australasia has shown how to prosper from
    mass migration 21st century style…..now OZ has more asians than europeans/brits in its demographics.

    Maybe guyana can take a leaf out of OZ s book…..
    or the haemorage of brighter guyanese will continue…BRAIN DRAIN !

    Richer countries rob the poorer ones why because it is “cheaper” to import skills than to train their own…..today in UK most of the “skilled” labourers/construction
    workers etc come from eastern europe…..”economic migrants”
    who entered the country legally…..in next 3/5 years UK will certainly benefit
    from the influx of these skilled labourers as its economy returns to growth.

    GUYANA needs to double its population over next decade if it is to prosper
    how this is achieved raises more questions than answers.
    It can only happen if its politicians are forced into accepting this fact by
    public pressure protests….who will bell the cat !

    my spin
    kamtan in wet wet UK on his way to sunny south ANDALUCIA spain.

  • Thinker  On May 28, 2014 at 1:48 am

    Kamptan, I have reached the point where I have to check out everything you say for accuracy. There is no free movement of people as far as I am aware. We don’t need visas but I am not sure about any indefinite work permits. http://www.minfor.gov.gy/images/minfor_docs/foreign_trade/guyana_brazil/Partial_Scope_Agreement_Brazil-Guyana.pdf
    Perhaps you can clarify.

    I don’t see any political unification between India and Pakistan. What are you referring to? China and Russia in the future? A certain degree of economic integration has nothing to do with political union.

    OZ has more Asians than Europeans in its demographics???? Evidence???

    Why would the Guyanese population need to be doubled over the next dec ade for the country to prosper? Is there a serious labour shortage that can’t be filled through training?

    Guyanese must pressure the government to bring more people in? From where?

    • de castro  On May 28, 2014 at 2:44 am

      ok I will try to explain my suggestions….
      so I dont need a visa but I can visit…..dont be naive….who needs a work permit ?
      UK and EURO has thousands of “illegals” living working in its cities…..
      USA is even worse with “aliens” entering daily if not hourly…..
      my issue is simple….why not legalise them and monitor their progress….tax movements etc etrc
      isnt guyana and brazil signatories to shengen agreement.
      check it out on google.

      The newly elected hindu PM of INDIA invited his neighbour equivalent in pakistan for talks which were private……
      it was British who divided india and pakistan “politically” to rule them.
      old roman thinking “divide and conquer” “unite and rule”….
      Religion the tool.

      china and russia eventually united economically…. politically impossible for ideological if not religious reasons……

      OZ population statistics can be obtained on google but will check for myself

      yes there is always room for more skilled labour and in most cases shortages occur….skilled labour is mobile and training is costly so developped countries
      import rather than train…..economics.
      but it has political questions on its justifications.
      GERMANY at one stage imported turkish workers for their factories as cheap
      labour but it became more expensive to keep track of them….
      now they use east europeans….legally.

      the answer to your last question has been answered…..wherever.
      guyana can double its population in the next decade to offset the
      ammount of skilled/educated economic migrants leaving its shores.

      will now check out google on OZ demographics…

    • de castro  On May 28, 2014 at 3:10 am

      google says..
      2010 indian and chinese in OZ were over 3m of a 22m total..
      hey thats nearly 15% ….ITS NOW 2014 so maybe its now ?

      my oz and nz family and friends are always complaining of how many asian
      economic migrants now inhabit their cities…..yet they themselves are migrants…ha ha !

  • de castro  On May 28, 2014 at 2:51 am

    may add
    did not obama grant an amnesty for illegals to become legal aliens ?
    wonder how many came forward…..? political gimmickery my friend.

    • Albert  On May 28, 2014 at 5:31 pm

      Kamtan”……did not obama grant an amnesty for illegals” Gee, I miss that one. Know when he will grant another?.

  • de castro  On May 28, 2014 at 8:03 am

    to conclude
    Guyana must look nearer its enighbours east west north south to replace the
    exodus of the young skilled educated class from leaving…..encourage or discourage them from leaving….or import
    from outside….the skilled educated class are mobile and will walk the talk
    if the political/economics of guyana stagnates….status quo in politricks.
    The solution is both economic and political….with the horse before the cart…
    political rethink before economic enlightenment….
    To be economically rich but politically inept (poor)is certainly not way forward.

    A classless or classful society is possible …with opportunity to cross the “class-line” on offer…..not “poor hoping to become rich” as per capitalistic ideals.

    this is far fetched but its possible.

    kamtan

  • Albert  On May 28, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    What Mr. Ramkarran did not, or could not write, may be more important than what he stated. When people are deeply involved in corruption, with possible link to the drug trade, they cannot exit easily, if at all. Recall the saying, he who rides a tiger cannot dismount. But from the tiger back he may be able to grab a tree limb and climb up. That tree limb for the present government might be the kind of political unity with the opposition that Ramkarran has in mind. Finding a way to unite with the opposition might be a way out of the pit.

    • de castro  On May 28, 2014 at 6:59 pm

      albert
      There is a political solution …. in next election if neither side have a majority
      a coalition government may be the next best thing…..not between the two major
      players but with a minor joining with a major to govern….
      UK and most of euroland is heading this way…….as someone who follows the
      UK politics actively I predict another coalition government for UKPLC.
      This time maybe UKIP with labour or conservatives ….the two major class
      players in UK politics over past 50+ years….
      I voted in my local election (yearly) canvassing for an independant candidate.
      She was a labour candidate but is now an “independant”….
      If both major players join forces (doubt if possible) it will be “counterproductive”
      almost a dictatorship…..not the best way forward…..undemocratic.

      we must wait and see how the next general elections evolves….
      and how it will be contested PR or first past post ?
      65 MP with a 33 v 32 result ….as it is today…..
      that is why you have the “stalemate” in guyana s political scene…..

      are there no “independant” MPs and isnt there a third party….
      ? need some explanation of how the guyanas electorial system works….

      help !

      USA it is REP V DEM
      UK it is TORY V LABOUR but with independants and other parties contesting but
      they are minority parties…..630MP s to govern nearly 68million souls.
      GUYANA 65 MPs to govern .75million souls…..

      UK its one MP for every 100.000 souls
      GUYANA its one MP for every 10.000 souls

      can guyana afford such a burden……..and is it good value for money.!!

      CAMERON wishes to cut UK MPs to less than 500 but knows its impossible
      to get agreement on the issue.
      House of Lords (USA equiv to upper house) also has another 650 lords “unelected”….appointed by queen and party leaders.

      some very interesting political statistics indeed…..

      kamtan
      I may add……

      • Albert  On May 28, 2014 at 9:46 pm

        I was told according to the Guyana constitution the two opposition parties with their total 32 majority seats, cannot form a coalition after to the election. So the PPP with 31 seats is the government.

        We don’t have an equivalent to your upper house (House of Lords). Our “upper house” or Senate consist of two elected politicians from each state (totaling 100) for a 6 years term. Normally a bill has to be approve by both houses then signed by the President to become law.

  • malcolm heydorn  On June 1, 2014 at 2:14 am

    Hello Folks,

    Reading Mr Ramkarrann’s article above, sends shivers throughout my body. An apologist for the failures of past and present leaderships,he attempts to rubberize their true impact on real people who were occasioned to leave their land of birth, for the sake of their sanity and in many cases, their safety. These are the people who are turning over left, right, and centre, not the Jagans and Burnhams, both of whom have left their wrecking “balls ” on the land for all to see.

    This country will get nowhere with diatribes like this, that I am responding to. What prospects or hopes are you conjecturing? When is prosperity {the ones that you refer to} going to arrive? How will this happen in a nation that is up to its neck in racism? You yourself, in your references to names, choose not to mention the ethnicity of anyone who was of African or East indian heritage, but felt at liberty to do so for all others. Are you afraid that the powers that be will get you, or is this just a reflection of the shell game that you have resorted to. Be fair, and stop propagandizing for whoever your “master” is.

    Guyana will never get out of its “rot”, until fair minded, NON RACIST leadership is in control, and all the irrelevant bums vacate; the past is not dead, it is still with us.

    • de castro  On June 1, 2014 at 7:04 am

      MY FRIEND
      expressed with venum and some hate….
      as per your first line of comment….i empathise with your honesty and truthfullness.
      and you hit nail on head with your final sentance…..guyana will never get out of its “rot”…..
      I share your sentiments but not your “despair”….never say never in politics.

      guyana will get out of its rot..when ? answer..eventually.
      it is better to live in hope than die in despair….the status quo in politricks that
      the powers that be enjoy is not everlasting or forever……change will come
      one can but hope its revolutionary without the blood letting….history has a funny way of repeating itself.
      we can but learn from the mistakes of past…

      forever the optimist
      kamtan

  • Ron. Persaud  On June 1, 2014 at 9:18 pm

    In my opinion (and experience), there was not the mutual respect between the major two races that would be a required cornerstone in the foundation of national unity. And there was a lack of trust ( another cornerstone) of each other among all race groups in Guyana.
    Sure I had an “Uncle Jeff” – a black lorry driver in Leguan; and “Miss Barker” was everybody’s auntie. But in my grandparents’ kitchen there was a specified cup if ever a “Khapri” (Kaffir?) asked for a drink of water.
    Growing up and going to school in Albuoystown, I was threatened with grievous bodily harm if I ate beef and pork and their by products – black pudding and/or souse. This threat almost became a reality when I was caught eating “dry food”, complete with breadfruit and salt fish stew, cooked in coconut milk to a fine turn, from auntie Rosie. She and uncle Lotus were Portuguese tenants in a “downstairs room” in Hunter street.
    You can imagine that my friendship with Blacks and Muslims could go only so far.
    Recall the mystique that enshrouded the “Chinese Association”; that “yuh nevva see a Chinee begga!”; the “Lodge” with its secret codes and dark ceremonies …and always associated with Black people (men specifically).
    Do you remember the LCP and its special page(s) in the Sunday Chronicle?
    Do you remember the disparaging tone of the term “Buck” as a word or prefix?
    I was fortunate to work in the Rupununi for a year. And having witnessed the courage and culture of the Wapisiana people I have never used the word since. Even the legal tender is always a dollar (bill).
    I started working in the Sugar Industry in the early 1960’s and regularly travelled between Georgetown and Uitvlugt. On those days while the downtown was burning and gangs were looting, some Black neighbors would meet me at the Georgetown ferry stelling and escort me in safety to Hunter street.
    Another day, these same neighbors will brawl and threaten to “bun it ra** downI”, in reference to the landlord’s property. Or they would be drinking in the adjoining tenement room and almost vow to “…walk pon coolie and spit pon dem!”
    But it was on the sugar estates that I was to experience first hand how deep and uncompromising was the disunity.
    Sure it was in (great?) part to do with the “White Man’s divide and rule” manipulation.
    Ditto and double for the PPP split in 1955!! It was ironic that two years earlier we were singing;
    “Doctor Jagan, Lawyer Burnham;
    Fighting for Coolie and…
    Black man freedom”
    A real and personal disenchantment for me was, with Guyanisation of the Industry, the disease spread upward and outward…rather like the mushroom cloud which has become the international symbol of complete destruction.
    If I sound pessimistic, it is because I believe that the best Guyanese have left the country. They left because they had initiative, they were innovative and were not afraid of change or to change.
    I am doing an injustice to many of those who remained when I say that they cannot or will not change the environment to exploit their own talents and strengths.
    We who left are not without blame. We have supported the culture of dependency and apathy that seems to prevail.
    Full disclosure. I am solely responsible for the contents of this post.

  • Thinker  On June 1, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    Why should those who left accept blame? Opportunity knocks once and “carpe diem”. As you say it was it the country areas that one could understand the depth of racial animosity. It was frightening. The narrow-mindedness of the people at large is stifling. One tends to be sucked into it despite oneself. Nothing will really change in a hurry. Political power sharing or “unity” will still only be a façade if it ever happens. Deep down the people do not understand each other. No real sense of history.

    • de castro  On June 2, 2014 at 1:26 am

      people dont have to change…but they must change their leaders….they will change dem….eventually.
      education education education. revolution of thinking.
      Eventually, on the final day , there will be a”general election”
      with the swing vote deciding the results.
      Lets hope the end result is accepted by all sides with a peaceful outcome.

      forever the optimist

  • de castro  On June 2, 2014 at 2:08 am

    albert
    your upper house has 100 representatives…does it mean guyana has 25 states.
    THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY DIVIDED INTO 10 REGIONS.
    confused ! And six year term….not “life” as per UK house of Lords.
    So the two opposition parties merge before election a possibility.?
    OR is this not permitted.
    IS THE PRESIDENTS JOB FOR LIFE or how is he/she deselected.

    OBAMA must exit after his second term as president and/or republicans replace
    democrats….Hilary already has a foot in his grave….First female president.
    American politricks is very predictable…bit boring.

    UK may never have an african or indian prime minister but it can eventually
    have a “mixed race” one….Milliband labour leader is the son of a
    jew whose father was a commie professor teaching at london uni.
    Cameron not unlike Clegg is an eaton graduate…born of the right stock.
    Upper class and Clegg is married to a spanish woman.
    next election in 2015 we will see another coalition government
    HUNG PARLIAMENT….but two parties can join after to form a government.
    maybe this time TORIES OR LABOUR joining with UKIP or LIBERALS.
    party politricks.

    Euroland will continue with coalition governments ruling…as per germany uk
    et al…..deals made behind closed doors to retain power.

    interesting times ahead POLITRICKS

    • Albert  On June 2, 2014 at 2:09 pm

      Kamtan
      Things are a bit mixed up. What you refer to as upper house in the US is called the Senate. It consist of 100 elected senators, 2 elected from each state. Think your House of Lords has appointed (not elected) members. The undemocratic feature of our Senate is that each state has two elected senators but the states have vastly different populations. Georgia has about 10 million people while California has 31 million, I think Oregon has about 5 mill.

  • malcolm heydorn  On June 2, 2014 at 2:50 am

    Kamptan and other contributors

    Kampton,

    You must have been in very recent contact with the Angel Gabriel. to believe that things will be different within the next five decades; You were right in asserting that it will “eventually”. Do you recall the old Guyanese saying of the 50s/early 60s era; “things will change”. Well for 60 years now, nothing but nothing has changed; if anything the spirit of the nation has become even more comatose.
    We must accept that the country has no identifiable” National Identity”.

    Jesus can appear in Burnham Square, as well as on the East Coast Berbice,, suggesting that in the next election, people vote with their “heads”, and not their racial biases, and you can still be sure, that the great majority of East Indians will cast ballots for the PPP, while the great majority of Blacks will vote for the PNC; that’s the sad reality. Neither the PPP, nor the PNC, has any interest at all in re-educating the masses. This will obviously bring about the demise of the two parties. OOOPS. So to save face on the day of the next election, voters should take two good “belts” of the 25 year old Demerara rum ,before casting their individual vote, so that after the results are known (whenever that might be), they can truthfully say that they were not of sound mind at the time of the process. This may help them to withstand another 5years. of misery.

    • de castro  On June 2, 2014 at 6:30 am

      WOW WOW REALITY BITES
      GUYANA a failed state with no “national identity”

      now if jesus re-incarnated would that change things….doubt it !
      but if FORBES or CHEDDI did…. am certain things would change.
      thats why I remain optimstic…..am sure they are both reading this…..
      and I have not had 25yo dem rum…ha ha !

      guyana the wild can be “domesticated” …my concerns are simple….
      will they return to the wild !

      there are 44.000 Brazilians already legally living in guyana
      how mant more “illegals” anyones guess.
      eventually the “swing vote” external-internal will determine the outcome.
      not to mention the “overseas voters” who have the right to vote once registerred.

      thats why I remain optimistic !

      never say never in politics
      thanks for your response

  • malcolm heydorn  On June 2, 2014 at 2:10 pm

    Mr. de castro, my good man.

    Your statement “Guyana a failed state with no national identity”, is so true, although I sense a bit of ridicule in it. You are correct, in suggesting that Forbes, and Cheddie would be more successful than Jesus Christ, in changing the minds of the population. These two “Godlike” figures to their diehard supporters, are the root cause of the “wild” state of the nation. You see, they had their individual turn and “things never changed”. I hope that they are never reincarnated for the sole sake of the country. Perhaps we should shower them both with the 25 yrs old Demerara rum, so that they can be kept happy “down there”, or wherever their remains happen to reside, and not torment the nation again.

    You posit that there are 44,000 legal, and countless illegal Brazilians hanging out in Guyana, Ho Ho Ho, with a few more thousands the country would truly go wild, with all that dancing. Maybe this eventuality will put Uncle Forbes, and Grandpa Cheddie, on the back burner for all time; ( I don’t mean to punish them, but just to forget them).

    • de castro  On June 2, 2014 at 2:26 pm

      ha ha absolute hilarious laughter….
      personally I would urinate on their graves…..and hope that deh jumbee nah hant me !….whah ah worriy me is all dem travs V invading GT….
      much prefer GT renamed “venice” city of love under water
      than “gaytown” city of trans v s…

  • malcolm heydorn  On June 2, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    Kamton,

    I got your drift. Don’t worry too much. At least we know what is hanging under the vestments of the you know whos. Unfortunately, we will never be able to determine what is being held under the vestments of those in parliament. By the way, the renaming of Georgetown would be an easy project; just drill two big holes in the seawall defense structure, and “walla”, Venice, the city of love ,here we come, and if you notice a few jumbees. floating around where your house once stood, just imagine it could be the river Ganges they are cruising on.

  • de castro  On June 24, 2014 at 11:49 am

    ha ha ha in hilarious laughter….

    dem jumbee in the Ganges guh swallow you….ha ha

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