The Guyanese and Trinidadians of NYC – population analysis

The Guyanese and Trinidadians of NYC

Guyanese and Trinidadians Of Queens, NY celebrate Phagwah or Holi, the Spring Festival, in March 2013.

Picture: Guyanese and Trinidadians Of Queens, NY celebrate Phagwah or Holi, the Spring Festival, in March 2013.

News Americas, NEW YORK, NY, Fri. Jan. 14, 2014: The combined population of Guyanese and Trinidadians represent the third highest non-immigrant population in New York City, trailing only behind migrants from the Dominican Republic and China.

That’s according to an analysis by Ravi Ramkeesoon of the Indo-Caribbean Alliance of the Guyanese and Trinidadian Populations in New York City as reported by the New York City’s Planning Department, Newest New Yorkers report.

The Alliance says it decided to combine the two groups in NYC because of the cultural and socio-economic similarities. 

 What they found was that the combined immigrant population of Guyanese and Trinidadians in NYC reached a conservative 227,582 compared to 380,160 from the Dominican Republic and 350,231 from China.

The median age for both immigrant groups are between 46-48 years,  while approximately 1 out of 3 are between 18-44 years old.

Meanwhile, there are 65 Trinidadian males for every 100 Trinidadian females in NYC while there are 79 males for every 100 female Guyanese immigrants.  By comparison, New York City (native and foreign-born) was 90 females for every 100 males.

Out of the 50 percent of the foreign-born population in the Borough of Queens, Guyanese represents the second largest foreign population with over 82,000, trailing only Chinese immigrants, who account for over 142,000.

More than half of all Guyanese immigrants in the United States live in New York City compared to 40 percent for Trinidadian immigrants.

The average household income for Guyanese immigrants overall is approximately $51,000, much higher than the average foreign-born populations and only exceeded by immigrants from India, the Philippines and United Kingdom.

Trinidadian immigrants’ household income is approx. $44,000, which also represents the average household income for all foreign-born populations.  NYC’s median (including native and foreign-born) is $49,792.

Female Trinidadian immigrant workers in New York City made an average of $44,000 compared to $40,000 for female Guyanese workers.

Home ownership rates were highest for Italians (68 percent), followed by  Guyanese (49 percent), Chinese (44 percent), and Filipinos (41 percent).

Among groups from the non-Hispanic Caribbean, the home ownership rate stood at 40 percent for Jamaicans, and was marginally above the city average for Trinidadians and Haitians.

In the New York Metro region, the combined total number of Guyanese and Trinidadian immigrants climbed over 288,000, trailing the Dominican Republic (557,520), China (477,386), Mexico (366,810), and India (330,881).

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  • Ron. Persaud  On February 2, 2014 at 12:13 am

    It has been reported in the press that the population of NY has slipped (or will slip) to third place behind California and Florida.
    This is due to a gross migration.
    I would expect that all groups will be represented (proportionately?).
    I doubt very much that “More than half of all Guyanese immigrants in the United States live in New York”.
    I may be wrong.
    I have been wrong before.
    Many times.

    • Thinker  On February 2, 2014 at 8:59 am

      What is obvious is that the statistics are based on what the organisation knows of Indo-Caribbeans in the Queens, New York area. It is in no position to comment on numbers of other Guyanese and Trinidadians since those statistics are not within its purview. Only Embassies could have some notion of these statistics and then only a general one based on passport renewals. But do they make a breakdown based on ethnicity? Any accurate statistics on second generation Guyanese who are US citizens?

    • Ron Saywack.  On February 4, 2014 at 7:29 pm

      “It has been reported in the press that the population of NY has slipped (or will slip) to third place behind California and Florida.”

      Perhaps the bitterly cold winters may be the biggest contributing factor to the shift?

  • Ram Jagessar  On February 6, 2014 at 7:30 am

    I find the figure of 288,000 Trinidadians and Guyanese in the New York Metro region to be very conservative indeed, especially when we compare the two groups in Canada and the Toronto GTA region.

    The Westjet marketing team has recently given their estimate of Trinidadians in Canada as 150,000, which I find very plausible. The Guyana Consul General’s office in Toronto told me some years ago that they were working with a rough estimate of 200,000 Guyanese in Canada. If we accept these figures, it would mean Canada has 350,000 Trinidadians and Guyanese.

    Now we in Canada believe that the overwhelming majority of Trinis and Guyanese live in the Greater Toronto Area (4.1 million population), and by that we mean about 75 percent. Unlike the USA which has places like Miami and Fort Lauderdale with sizeable groups of Trinis and Guyanese, Canada really has just one major population centre for the two groups. So 75% of 350,000 would give 262,500 Trinis and Guyanese in the Greater Toronto Area.

    Is anybody going to tell me that Greater Toronto has almost the same number of Trinis and Guyanese as New York Metro?!!! That New York Metro (12 million?) has just 25,500 more Trinis and Guyanese than Greater Toronto? That can’t be right.

    Now I accept that this is not proof as such, but it is working from the known to the unknown. We have long believed that the USA has around double the amount of Trinidad and Guyanese as Canada. If we have 350,000 then America should have 700,000. The natural follow up question would be what proportion of the Trinis and Guyanese in America live in New York, New York Metro to be specific. If it’s 50%, that would still mean 350,000 Trinis and Guyanese there, which is a long way off from 288,000. If it’s more than 50%, then you do the math.

    The author Ravi Ramkeesoon has done a commendable thing in making his estimate. At least we have something to work with.

    But the greater need is for a serious demographic of the Guyanese and Trinidadian communities in America and Canada. It’s a shame that we have been here so long, over 100 years in Canada and more in America, and still we don’t have an accurate count. I tried to get something from the Trinidad diplomatic missions in Canada but they had nothing at all! I would not be surprised if the Guyanese counterparts in Canada are in the same boat, and same with those in America.

    It looks like we the Guyanese and Trinis living here in North America will have to do our own counting of our own sheep and goats!

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